Also, the joys of non-motherhood...

[JackieOnLine]

I've wanted to do that for years - but alas, I can't find the right minded people in the right area.

Updated plumbing would be a most.

I am interested in community living more generally but only to the point of reading about it and - before finding a house to rent - answering room mate wanted ads.

there are a TON of things it's good for, it's just not mainstream. practical!

ETA: adding link about cohousing

 

[jillc]

The closest I've ever heard of it is this project in France that I heard about on CBC radio. BabaYaga house. I hope it's in the mainstream before I get there - or I will have to start one.
I know that they are trying to start one on Canada's west coast too.
http://www.metropolitiques.eu/Aging-in-self-managed-housing.html
http://www.thewestcoastreader.com/a-house-of-baba-yagas/

 

[hilary1617]

http://www.toddlersareaholes.com/2014/10/you-know-you-have-toddler-when_7.html

 

[DianaCox]

We could start our own community - Poopersville. In addition to a water tower to ensure high power flushing capacity, we could have a Tower of Evoo, with taps into each cottage. Butter could be delivered to our front porches. Base models will include Toto Washlets and high velocity exhaust fans. My husband could be the executive general contractor.

Hilary - I sent that link to my stepdaughter.

 

[jillc]

We could start our own community - Poopersville. In addition to a water tower to ensure high power flushing capacity, we could have a Tower of Evoo, with taps into each cottage. Butter could be delivered to our front porches. Base models will include Toto Washlets and high velocity exhaust fans. My husband could be the executive general contractor.

Hilary - I sent that link to my stepdaughter.

Love it!

 

[brooklyngirl]

We could start our own community - Poopersville. In addition to a water tower to ensure high power flushing capacity, we could have a Tower of Evoo, with taps into each cottage. Butter could be delivered to our front porches. Base models will include Toto Washlets and high velocity exhaust fans. My husband could be the executive general contractor.

Hilary - I sent that link to my stepdaughter.

Sign me up!

 

[bearmom]

We could start our own community - Poopersville. In addition to a water tower to ensure high power flushing capacity, we could have a Tower of Evoo, with taps into each cottage. Butter could be delivered to our front porches. Base models will include Toto Washlets and high velocity exhaust fans. My husband could be the executive general contractor.

Hilary - I sent that link to my stepdaughter.

I'm so there. I have liked the idea of a like minded community for years. I actually bought the dream acreage for it several years ago.

I am the youngest of 6 like minded sibs (most of us). We had made elaborate plans for just such a property, and all agreed on what we'd like and need.

But, over the next few years, I see my sibs w/ kids (and generous, bleeding heart childless sib) put never ending resources in so many of thier 20s and 30's perpetual children that are unmotivated, unemployed by choice, and SO entitled. And reliant on them still to supply housing and whatever other needs they have.

I guess it's easy for me to sit back and judge as a mostly uninvolved bystander, but I know I can't live with / too near/ the coddling of these perpetual babies, and even being near the enabling parents and grand parents causes stress in our relationships.

So, since I've now realized I'm too curmudgeony and persnickety to live with people too genetically similar to me, I may have a perfect piece of property for sale for the future Poopersville.

 

[DianaCox]

Where is this land???

 

[robs477]

I'm so there. I have liked the idea of a like minded community for years. I actually bought the dream acreage for it several years ago.

I am the youngest of 6 like minded sibs (most of us). We had made elaborate plans for just such a property, and all agreed on what we'd like and need.

But, over the next few years, I see my sibs w/ kids (and generous, bleeding heart childless sib) put never ending resources in so many of thier 20s and 30's perpetual children that are unmotivated, unemployed by choice, and SO entitled. And reliant on them still to supply housing and whatever other needs they have.

I guess it's easy for me to sit back and judge as a mostly uninvolved bystander, but I know I can't live with / too near/ the coddling of these perpetual babies, and even being near the enabling parents and grand parents causes stress in our relationships.

So, since I've now realized I'm too curmudgeony and persnickety to live with people too genetically similar to me, I may have a perfect piece of property for sale for the future Poopersville.

Wow, you hit that nail right on the head! They (millennial’s) feel they are so GD entitled huh, (not all of them..but a lot). My wife and I use that term.....”enablers” all the time too. I too was childless until I was 47 years old. Wife # 2 of 11 yrs, had a daughter that chose a life of pursuing trouble, drugs etc and everything in between. We were absolutely NOT enablers, actually quite the opposite. Stepdaughter had a child and after she got arrested and put in the hospital after receiving a gunshot wound, wife # 2 and I took legal custody of the grandbaby (she was 2) and have been raising her as our own daughter since and she is now almost 12. We are the only parents she knows and she is my total joy and the reason I want to have the DS so that I may live longer and have a better quality of life for her….BUT…its SOO much harder doing this as a grandparent! I guess my point is, you never know what may come your way, just be prepared. So, yeah, sign me up for “poopville” !!....Rainman’s got skills too!

P.S. Diana, you, you’ll are really GD funny!

 

[JackieOnLine]

Where is this land???

and before you decide it's too far north I think we need two places, one for summer and one for winter.

might as well go for the gold.

 

[brooklyngirl]

and before you decide it's too far north I think we need two places, one for summer and one for winter.

might as well go for the gold.

Or it could be in San Francisco and we wouldn't have to worry about either!

 

[bearmom]

Where is this land???

It's mossy forest and some open on the Cowlitz river in WA, adjacent to Gifford pinchot nat forest. Nesteled between Mr Rainier and Mt St Helens, with a nice view of rainier.

I took a friend down to it the other day to teach me to fly fish, and a herd of elk came up along the river, and through the wooded part to graze in the field. We just sat on a log by the water and watched them. I'm pretty sure it's paradise, for me, but not once my spongy nieces and nephews start relocating there.

 

[bearmom]

and before you decide it's too far north I think we need two places, one for summer and one for winter.

might as well go for the gold.

Well, we haven't let it go, despite coming to the realization that (most) of my own relatives would be a drag to live with.

Summer / winter is a good idea. In fact, several locales would be cool that we could all move around.

I'd have a few additional requests, like no kids allowed, but pets are.

 

[DianaCox]

I'd vote for something a little south of SF - maybe in Los Gatos? There's still land up there, and not TOO far from civilization.

I just looked at the landscape on GoogleMaps in the area between the parks by the river - it sure is far away from civilization! But it looks LOVELY - will it get internet??

How about Vegas for the winter? I know a couple of peeps who live nearby ...

 

[bearmom]

I'd vote for something a little south of SF - maybe in Los Gatos? There's still land up there, and not TOO far from civilization.

I just looked at the landscape on GoogleMaps in the area between the parks by the river - it sure is far away from civilization! But it looks LOVELY - will it get internet??

How about Vegas for the winter? I know a couple of peeps who live nearby ...

The nearest town is Packwood, which is about 2 miles away, and everyone there has Dish for internet and TV, but I do think there is cable available. Cellular is a bummer, as the only one that is not spotty is Verizon.

Well is in, and power, but that's it. No structures other than well house.

Los Gatos area is so nice. Vegas was 118 ******* degrees last time I fled from there (and still expected to tick up about 4 more degrees). Any one too skinny after WLS may shrivel to a desiccated little raisin down there!