more2adore
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You reallllly have to look to see it, but from this angle, I *think* you can.
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104 down? you have made amazing progress, go YOU!
I see a difference in your waist line but it is really obvious in your upper arm!
WTG.
brooklyngirl
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So proud of you!
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more2adore
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So funny... I think somewhere in the back of my mind I wondered if I truly was a superabsorber, or if I really just lacked self-discipline. I would have gone off on anyone who said that to me, but I think sometimes we're our own worst critics. Thanks to the past two weeks, I no longer think that. I mean, holy crap. I've been logging every single morsel I eat into MFP - down to the last 1/4 tsp. of celery salt. I've been right at 700-800 calories for the last week, and 10-11 cups of water/day, and I've done nothing but fluctuate the same 3-4 pounds, up and down and back up again. I thought maybe it had to do with "that time of the month" - but it's been over for a couple of days now, and I've done nothing but gain since it ended. That 5 is back to being the leading number on my scale again. I'm not going to let it get me down, but DAMN if it isn't mindboggling to me. I'm worried that my surgeon won't believe me. I think the best thing I could truly do for myself is get off this sugary, carby optifast stuff and start drinking protein shakes instead, but I want to be able to say to him honestly that I've stuck to the plan his nutritionist laid out for me, 100%.
How many people that haven't actually been superfat would truly believe someone who is 500ish pounds could GAIN weight on 700 calories a day? It just doesn't even seem like it should be possible.
Since the whole point of the sleeve is to enable me to eat pretty much this amount of calories, I'm wondering how it's really going to help me lose enough weight for my surgeon to go ahead with the DS. Let's hope the unknown metabolic effects are more than we think!
How many people that haven't actually been superfat would truly believe someone who is 500ish pounds could GAIN weight on 700 calories a day? It just doesn't even seem like it should be possible.
Since the whole point of the sleeve is to enable me to eat pretty much this amount of calories, I'm wondering how it's really going to help me lose enough weight for my surgeon to go ahead with the DS. Let's hope the unknown metabolic effects are more than we think!
holy crap - how bad is the optifast?
just from what you've said here maybe you should consider doing something healthier. then do whatever makes sense - tell them you stuck to the nut's plan even if you didn't (technically) or bring the protein shake you switched to and tell him the truth and why...I don't know.
but if you can't even trust the doctor to believe you I don't think you owe them anything. it's YOUR health.
if I were Ruler of the World I wouldn't let any medical professionals treat anyone for obesity without making them read this thread and then testing them on it!!
more2adore
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Optifast Banana Shake, 1 serving:
207 calories, 17.5g protein, 4.5g fat, 22.5g carbs (17.8 of which are sugars), Dietary Fiber 3.6g. It's worse than the chocolate flavor, but not by much. Soups are about the same. The bars were even fattier/carbier.
Gold Standard WPI, Caramel Toffee Fudge, 1 serving:
120 Calories, 24g protein, 1.5g fat, 3g carbs (2 of which are sugars), Fiber 0.
I have a friend who previously used him as a surgeon who told me he got really upset when she told him she had used protein shakes instead of Optifast because that's not what he had recommended, and that he yelled at her and told her that's why her liver was so hard to manage during surgery. Of course, that's third-hand information I wasn't there for, so who knows what his take on it would be. But either way, I don't want to find myself in a position where I have to tell him I didn't follow the plan the NUT laid out exactly.
207 calories, 17.5g protein, 4.5g fat, 22.5g carbs (17.8 of which are sugars), Dietary Fiber 3.6g. It's worse than the chocolate flavor, but not by much. Soups are about the same. The bars were even fattier/carbier.
Gold Standard WPI, Caramel Toffee Fudge, 1 serving:
120 Calories, 24g protein, 1.5g fat, 3g carbs (2 of which are sugars), Fiber 0.
I have a friend who previously used him as a surgeon who told me he got really upset when she told him she had used protein shakes instead of Optifast because that's not what he had recommended, and that he yelled at her and told her that's why her liver was so hard to manage during surgery. Of course, that's third-hand information I wasn't there for, so who knows what his take on it would be. But either way, I don't want to find myself in a position where I have to tell him I didn't follow the plan the NUT laid out exactly.
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You can at least get off the Optifast post-op and go with protein shakes and/or a high protein/low carb/low fat diet. Even if the sleeve doesn't help that much, the diet should make a difference.
And I can definitely see a difference in your abdomen in the new photo.
And I can definitely see a difference in your abdomen in the new photo.
more2adore
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Thanks, Larra! Yeah, definitely going off the Optifast and onto the WPI as soon as surgery is over! I have both that caramel-toffee-fudge flavored one AND an unflavored one, ready to go.
I'm so glad people can actually see it, thanks. It took me forever to see it!
I'm so glad people can actually see it, thanks.
It took me forever to see it!
what a damn shame - whatever you do, you can lie to him with a clear conscience if you need to. like if you decided to go with a healthier option.
probably I shouldn't have said that. but reading about how hard you've worked and how little it takes for you to maintain your weight and then you aren't sure if your doctor will believe you?
GAH that makes me mad!
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newanatomy
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I see a big difference. You are going to be like me and lose the boobs. Kiss 'em goodbye, baby! Ass too! Bwahaha!
more2adore
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I love the group on this website so much. You ladies (AND ROB) are the best, lol.
Jackie, I just want to hug you right now for being so up in arms on my behalf!
You always make me feel so supported! And I don't mean just in the boob area that NA referenced. 
I'm going to email his NUT today just to see if there's anything different they want me doing, but I imagine the answer is no. It's just over a week away now so I'm not sure how much time there is for any substantial changes to impact anything significant anyway, really, but I want him to be aware that I've done absolutely everything I was told to.
Bahahahahahahahahaha. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. My mother always said she was a cup size AAA before she had me (I always told her that was a battery, not a bra size) but made it all the way to a B cup after having me, so I've already had large ones much longer than I was genetically programmed to have them, hahaha. The boobs I won't care about THAT much (hubby likes 'em small proportionally to the rest of me anyway) but I will miss the big ol' butt! I mean, proportionally, if it becomes flat and nonexistent. I would love to have one that was still big on me, but didn't take up 2 seats. Life goals, hahaha.
what a damn shame - whatever you do, you can lie to him with a clear conscience if you need to. like if you decided to go with a healthier option.
probably I shouldn't have said that. but reading about how hard you've worked and how little it takes for you to maintain your weight and then you aren't sure if your doctor will believe you?
GAH that makes me mad!
Jackie, I just want to hug you right now for being so up in arms on my behalf!
You always make me feel so supported! And I don't mean just in the boob area that NA referenced. I'm going to email his NUT today just to see if there's anything different they want me doing, but I imagine the answer is no. It's just over a week away now so I'm not sure how much time there is for any substantial changes to impact anything significant anyway, really, but I want him to be aware that I've done absolutely everything I was told to.Bahahahahahahahahaha. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. My mother always said she was a cup size AAA before she had me (I always told her that was a battery, not a bra size) but made it all the way to a B cup after having me, so I've already had large ones much longer than I was genetically programmed to have them, hahaha. The boobs I won't care about THAT much (hubby likes 'em small proportionally to the rest of me anyway) but I will miss the big ol' butt! I mean, proportionally, if it becomes flat and nonexistent. I would love to have one that was still big on me, but didn't take up 2 seats. Life goals, hahaha.
Munchkin
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Yes, the difference is visible.
And Optifast is junk. No good. Full of sugar!
And Optifast is junk. No good. Full of sugar!
