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My butt is flat. I like it, so that’s good.
I like my flat butt but pants/jeans are hard to find that aren’t super baggy back there.

I do NOT like this new flat butt and it doesn’t even feel right or comfortable sitting on it sometimes! But I can’t change it I am ignoring it!! It is also becoming an issue for my spinal cord stimulator implant because the battery and programming source is in a fat pocket that used to be in a spot below my waist but next to my hip. But because the fat’s decreasing and gravity this thing is way down in my butt and the skin is thin over it and pinches my flesh against the chair when I sit. That is going to be repaired before the end of the year! Not the gravity but finding a new fat pocket!

Part of the reason why I am so swayed is because I think I look gross, scrawny and awful so I have been having to rely on what other people tell me until this weirdness goes away and my brain catches up. But I guess their brains are needing to catch up too.
 
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I have this friend. Love her, hate her. She is 70 something and you can bounce quarters off her ass. Perfectly shaped too btw. She swears it's all about the stair climber, lunges, and squats...
 
I have this friend. Love her, hate her. She is 70 something and you can bounce quarters off her ass. Perfectly shaped too btw. She swears it's all about the stair climber, lunges, and squats...

Those lunges and squats work especially doing it with weights! At 70 though! That is impressive. Shoot, I kind of want to see her ass now!!!
 
Webmommy you look beautiful. I think when our appearance changes it takes time for people to “see” you and stop looking for the old you. I am still significantly overweight (65 lbs) but I have lost and maintained a 200 lb weight loss. It is weird because when I run into people who haven’t seen me since the loss they ask if I am sick because I am “so” skinny.
 
Webmommy you look beautiful. I think when our appearance changes it takes time for people to “see” you and stop looking for the old you. I am still significantly overweight (65 lbs) but I have lost and maintained a 200 lb weight loss. It is weird because when I run into people who haven’t seen me since the loss they ask if I am sick because I am “so” skinny.

Thank you! I’m still looking for the old me and the much young me as well! Who’s this old lady in the mirror?! Lol

But I have heard the “What happened to you?!” I think cancer is on their minds so some seem relieved when I say I had bariatric surgery. I didn’t tell hardly anyone that I was having the surgery so this was a surprise to a lot of people.

You have done a great job at losing and maintaining your weight loss!! You look great!
 
I do NOT like this new flat butt and it doesn’t even feel right or comfortable sitting on it sometimes! But I can’t change it I am ignoring it!! It is also becoming an issue for my spinal cord stimulator implant because the battery and programming source is in a fat pocket that used to be in a spot below my waist but next to my hip. But because the fat’s decreasing and gravity this thing is way down in my butt and the skin is thin over it and pinches my flesh against the chair when I sit. That is going to be repaired before the end of the year! Not the gravity but finding a new fat pocket!

Part of the reason why I am so swayed is because I think I look gross, scrawny and awful so I have been having to rely on what other people tell me until this weirdness goes away and my brain catches up. But I guess their brains are needing to catch up too.

Ouch. I have a lot less padding on the backside than I once did, and it did make for uncomfortable sitting for a while. Sorry that pinching sounds truly painful. Hope the implant repair goes smoothly!
 
Thank you! I’m still looking for the old me and the much young me as well! Who’s this old lady in the mirror?! Lol

But I have heard the “What happened to you?!” I think cancer is on their minds so some seem relieved when I say I had bariatric surgery. I didn’t tell hardly anyone that I was having the surgery so this was a surprise to a lot of people.

You have done a great job at losing and maintaining your weight loss!! You look great!
When I had surgery, I lived in a small town in Minnesota. One day I was at the grocery store and the checker asked how I was doing I said fine. Then she said she and some of the other checkers had been trying to figure out if I had cancer....
 
Ouch. I have a lot less padding on the backside than I once did, and it did make for uncomfortable sitting for a while. Sorry that pinching sounds truly painful. Hope the implant repair goes smoothly!

Thank you. I asked my friend who’s underweight if sitting has always been painful to her butt bones and how did she sit on them? She puts her weight on her thighs when she sits and not so much on her buttbones because it hurts her too. Who knew that this would happen?!!


When I had surgery, I lived in a small town in Minnesota. One day I was at the grocery store and the checker asked how I was doing I said fine. Then she said she and some of the other checkers had been trying to figure out if I had cancer....

Uffda that is tacky and ungraceful way to ask about you!
 
Thank you. I asked my friend who’s underweight if sitting has always been painful to her butt bones and how did she sit on them? She puts her weight on her thighs when she sits and not so much on her buttbones because it hurts her too. Who knew that this would happen?!!




Uffda that is tacky and ungraceful way to ask about you!
Uffda... How appropriate!!!
 

This is a repost of something I wrote nearly 5 years ago. Apparently, people appreciated it, so I'm reposting it here. (And if you see something like it elsewhere, it is there without my permission; if you see it rewritten and not credited, I consider it plagiarism.)

Post Date: 5/9/09 9:09 am

Someone asked me a very thoughtful question via PM, and I thought I would generalize the answer and post it here. It related to several recent posts complaining about sub-optimal weight loss being experienced by some post-ops.

1) The AVERAGE long-term weight loss for the DS is 75%. That means a (somewhat skewed) bell curve centered on 75% -- some people lose 100% (or a tad more), some people (fewer than 10%) lose less than 50%. Expecting 100% is unreasonable. It is POSSIBLE, but expecting it is unreasonable.

2) The heavier you are, the less likely you are going to lose all your weight anyway. 50% EWL of a 350 lb person with a goal of 150 leaves them weighing 250 lbs -- 50% EWL of a 250 lb person with a goal of 150 leaves them weighing 200. Both are considered a successful result.

3) Some people can't or won't change their eating habits long-term. I myself was so pleased to NOT be dieting and losing weight that my weight loss stopped when I got to 205 at one year out, down from over 290. That was a healthy 205, in normal sized clothes, so I tried not to care. My cravings have changed over time, so now I'm not having as hard a time resisting that which I should not eat, so I have lost another 35 lbs in the last 2.5 years. I could have lost more if I was stricter with myself, but I am happier not dieting than I am at the idea of being under 170. 171-173 is pretty steady right now eating whateverthehell I please. I'm not saying one or the other mind-set is right or wrong, but it is a trade-off that I am responsible for choosing.

4) (In answer to a question about a specific person who had posted about stalling at a pretty high weight, and who was eating a lot of carbs, which concerned the person who asked me the question.) The person you mentioned started out over 400 lbs., and pre-op said that she had no intention of getting below 250, that she was only doing this because of her health, and was happy being a person of size. Then, as she started losing weight effortlessly in the immediate post-op period, it seems her goals changed to be more optimistic, possibly because she started thinking and believing she really COULD lose to lower than 250 (which I think she didn't really believe pre-op, and had geared herself to believing was OK, so long as she was healthy -- a NOT unreasonable goal), but -- it appears she didn't control her carb intake sufficiently during the effortless part, and now the results are coming to bear. 150-200 g/day of carbs is way over the top for someone who is SSMO and supposed to be trying to maximize her weight loss in the "window," despite the fact that the weight loss was impressive for the first few months no matter what she ate. Starting out SSMO and not controlling carbs sufficiently during the weight loss phase is more likely than not going to lead to sub-optimal weight loss overall, even if it didn't seem to matter at first.

5) Some surgeons do not do adequate operations. That's just fact. Drs. X, Y and Z (I'm not going to name names here, but I will give my opinions privately) seem to have more patients with worse results on average than others. And I'm wary of the surgeons who are giving people REALLY small stomachs and longer common channels -- some surprisingly long (150-200 cm). I have my doubts about them. My opinion, of course, and not a fact, and all based on anecdotal evidence. Personally, I would never accept a common channel longer than 125 cm, but that is my OPINION, not fact. The smaller stomach (3 oz vs. 5 or more, but no smaller) I think is a good idea, depending on the person.

6) Some people are just biologically resistant to weight loss. People of black and Hispanic ancestry in particular. Short women tend to lose less well. Tall men do better. People who have failed previous WLS do less well, as do people who have dieted severely several times previously. Age often matters, though I'm not sure if that is because older people are more sedentary or are more likely to have wrecked their metabolism worse with multiple starvation diets. There needs to be more study on optimizing common channel and alimentary tract lengths, as well as stomach size, with people's metabolisms. I'm NOT OK with surgeons who do a cookie-cutter surgery without measuring the small intestine (which can vary from something like 7 feet to 23 feet in length) and doing a proportional DS, or who don't vary the procedure based on age, BMI, health issues, etc. -- it has to be personalized.

7) People need to take personal responsibility. The DS makes this journey much easier, but it rarely makes it effortless. You have to control your carbs, more or less depending on YOUR particular situation. If you are older, have starvation dieted several times previously or have a previous failed WLS, you are probably going to have to be stricter and work harder than a younger person who hasn't wrecked their metabolism as badly, in order to get the best results. If you don't exercise, you are making it less likely that you will have as good results -- the same weight of muscle burns more calories at a resting state than fat and occupies a smaller volume; exercise tones your body, strengthens your bones, makes you healthier overall. If you don't care about getting optimal results if it means working harder, by controlling your diet and/or exercising (and I count myself among those people until the last 18 months or so), that's fine, but qwitcherbitchin'!! You've made a choice -- take personal responsibility for the effects of that choice.

TANSTAAFL.* It's the universal law. Some people get it easier than others, but who said life is fair? This is NOT a set-it-and-forget-it cure for morbid obesity. We have to be proactive about our health, and that includes setting realistic goals and taking personal responsibility.

* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TANSTAAFL
This was a really good to read. However it’s caused me to wonder if I can be successful. I remember my first surgery last year when I went in with hopes of a TDS only to be told that he was not able to complete the second connection and I was left with SADI with an option to have a second procedure later if not successful. I was so disappointed. However, I still managed to lose 100 lbs in 7 months then I stalled, and stalled and then stalled some more 17 months later. In fact I began to gain weight up to 255lbs . I tried everything. IF, Keto, more exercise, less exercise upping my cal lowering my cals and I just could not get below 240lbs. I was so frustrated because my hopes of reaching 200lbs- first major goal then 150lbs ultimate goal was sadly out the window. I’m now 7days po revision with the second connection. Hoping and praying that this time would be different. My cc is 150 down from 300. In your post you mentioned you wouldn’t have a cc the length of 150-200. I’m just wondering if I need to manage my expectations as my loss may not yield the results I was hoping. I should’ve asked for a shorter cc maybe 125. I’ve done so much reading and was confident that I’d covered everything with my surgeon.

ETA: I could’ve been happy at 240 and 5’5. I looked good and I felt even better. Strong even. I was training for a 5k which was huge for someone like me. Yet I couldn’t shake the nagging feelings of failure and wanting more. Any advice on how to make the best of my 150cc? I’m certainly reading up on all the trials and error of fellow wls members. Wished I’d heard about this forum sooner.
 
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In your situation, my utterly unqualified opinion is that you’re probably going to get some additional weight loss, and likely to get to ~200 and then get stuck again. Work your carb limitations as best you can, eat more protein, and stay healthy.

BUT! If and when you stall/start to regain, you may well be able to benefit from one of the newish GLP-1 receptor agonists like Ozempic/Wegovy, Mounjato/Zepbound, or one of the oral versions currently in Phase II/III testing.

In other words, this will likely help you, but if it doesn’t get you all the way, there will be more you can do.

FWIW, I’m 21 years out now, with a 100 cm CC, and stuck at 200 again. I’m 5’5”, 71 years old, and don’t have a diet left in me. I’m trying to get on a GLP-1 RA, which my doctor is happy to prescribe, but being on Medicare (which is currently statutorily prohibited from covering drugs for treatment of obesity, although there are bills pending rescinding that provision) and not having diabetes, it’s going to be difficult (and maybe impossible) to jump through hoops to get a waiver for the drug based on also having NASH. But it’s likely (?) that those requirements will be modified in the coming years.
 
Then again, I’m on the other side of the coin. My common channel is 175 because I was an extreme lightweight, 35.2, when I had my surgery and my surgeon said 175-200. I got him to agree to 175.

Three years ago, at 5’4, I weighed 127. I now weigh at 5’3 118-119. I’m fighting to avoid losing more. I’m 70 and apparently I’m in the 25% of the elderly who lose weight for no known reason.
 
In your situation, my utterly unqualified opinion is that you’re probably going to get some additional weight loss, and likely to get to ~200 and then get stuck again. Work your carb limitations as best you can, eat more protein, and stay healthy.

BUT! If and when you stall/start to regain, you may well be able to benefit from one of the newish GLP-1 receptor agonists like Ozempic/Wegovy, Mounjato/Zepbound, or one of the oral versions currently in Phase II/III testing.

In other words, this will likely help you, but if it doesn’t get you all the way, there will be more you can do.

FWIW, I’m 21 years out now, with a 100 cm CC, and stuck at 200 again. I’m 5’5”, 71 years old, and don’t have a diet left in me. I’m trying to get on a GLP-1 RA, which my doctor is happy to prescribe, but being on Medicare (which is currently statutorily prohibited from covering drugs for treatment of obesity, although there are bills pending rescinding that provision) and not having diabetes, it’s going to be difficult (and maybe impossible) to jump through hoops to get a waiver for the drug based on also having NASH. But it’s likely (?) that those requirements will be modified in the coming years.
Thank you. I really hope that I can maximize the tool. My surgeon initially wanted me to try GLP but it would more than I could afford monthly so I requested to add the second connection. Who knows I may get to 200 and be satisfied. I am 49 and 5’5”. We shall see. I will also add lifting for strength training.
 

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