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Ditto! When I look at the wiki I'm amazed at how much detail there is. I just finished rereading the books for a second time because I don't seem to pick up on the subtleties because of the grand scale of the story with the hundreds of characters and detailed geography. I look at that site all the time kind of as a "cliff's notes" when I can't remember who's who.

I do that with tons of books. I printed out the wiki once for my hubby on Shogun by James Clavell. It is one of my favorite books and he won't read it, how can you not want to read Shogun?!
 
I came up with more in support of the theory about Tyrion. He told Jon Snow once that "all dwarfs are *******s but not all *******s are dwarfs". It wouldn't surprise me for him to find out that he was indeed a *******.
I like it, makes so much sense in many ways.

So what do you think about Arya? Is she going to come back to Westeros and bring the gift to the ones left on her list? Although most if them are already dead and I don't think she's gonna be able to be the one to do Cersei in. How about the thing with the glass candles and "The Alchemist" in Oldtown? I read that he could be Jaquen H'ghar in a new face and then he took Pate's face and is in the citadel, but why? I really am waiting with bated breath for the next book!!!
 
Never heard of it, I'll put in on my kindle list :)

It is an old book. It is the first book in an Asian Saga. The books are so far apart in time that they don't need to be read together or in order. They are not even really related but I like them all! Shogun is my favorite though.
 
I like it, makes so much sense in many ways.

So what do you think about Arya? Is she going to come back to Westeros and bring the gift to the ones left on her list? Although most if them are already dead and I don't think she's gonna be able to be the one to do Cersei in. How about the thing with the glass candles and "The Alchemist" in Oldtown? I read that he could be Jaquen H'ghar in a new face and then he took Pate's face and is in the citadel, but why? I really am waiting with bated breath for the next book!!!

I almost wish this was not an HBO series even though I am enjoying it, it would free more of GRRM's time to finish the next book!


Who does Jaquen want to do in at the Citadel? Sam?

The Alchemist has a hooked nose and thick, black, curly hair, with a slight scar on his right cheek.[1] This is an identical description to that of the identity assumed by the Faceless Man assassin known to Arya Stark as Jaqen H'ghar.[2]
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Alchemist
 
I almost wish this was not an HBO series even though I am enjoying it, it would free more of GRRM's time to finish the next book!


Who does Jaquen want to do in at the Citadel? Sam?

The Alchemist has a hooked nose and thick, black, curly hair, with a slight scar on his right cheek.[1] This is an identical description to that of the identity assumed by the Faceless Man assassin known to Arya Stark as Jaqen H'ghar.[2]
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Alchemist
I don't know! I feel like Sam has more of a role yet to play, but who the hell knows. And yes, I really enjoy the show and the Dunk and Egg short stories, and I'll probably even buy the history of Westeros thing that he just finished writing and is now supposed to be worked on by illustrators, but I wish he would focus on finishing the damned series! He's no spring chicken and of he croaks before he finishes them I'll be seriously PISSED! (Insensitive? Yes, but I don't care, lol).
 
Certainly, Aegon believes himself to be legitimate. Many ASoIaF fans don't, mostly because 1) they don't believe that GRRM would bring in another Targaryen this late in the game, and 2) they really want Tyrion to be that third head of the dragon. However, Aegon being real makes the most sense. This theory explains all the reasons, but most of all, Daenerys' prophetic dream about Rhaegar saying the dragon has three heads? In it, he names his infant Aegon, and explains the child is one of the heads. It would be an odd thing for a prophetic dream to get wrong. And last but certainly not least. Varys tells the dying Kevan Lannister that Aegon VI is real, and he'd have absolutely no reason to lie to a man seconds from death
 
Have you read this: http://www.towerofthehand.com/blog/2010/08/24_if_its_chains_you_want_/index.html

I don't remember Alleras/Sarella but, it may make things simpler going forward.

The Maesters of Oldtown are perfectly justified in fearing a return of dragons--look what Aegon and his sisters did with three dragons. They conquered the Seven Kingdoms at the cost of thousands of lives lost on the Field of Fire alone. They ushered in a 300-year dynasty that was characterized by erratic despots. Not all the Targaryen kings were dangerous lunatics, but there were enough of them to warrant major concern should the Targaryens return to power.
 
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The weddings were loud and jolly, with a lot of drinking. Whenever Cat happened by with her barrow, the Sailor’s Wife would insist that her new husband buy some oysters, to stiffen him for the consummation. She was good that way, and quick to laugh as well, but Cat thought there was something sad about her too.
The other whores said that the Sailor’s Wife visited the Isle of the Gods on the days when her flower was in bloom, and knew all the gods who lived there, even the ones that Braavos had forgotten. They said she went to pray for her first husband, her true husband, who had been lost at sea when she was a girl no older than Lanna. “She thinks that if she finds the right god, maybe he will send the winds and blow her old love back to her,” said one-eyed Yna, who had known her longest, “but I pray it never happens. Her love is dead, I could taste that in her blood. If he ever should come back to her, it will be a corpse.”

From A Feast For Crows, Appendix (under the “In Braavos” heading):
--THE SAILOR’S WIFE, a whore at the Happy Port,
--LANNA, her daughter, a young whore
Here's something the appendices tell us that the book didn't. Lanna, “the youngest of the whores, only ten-and-four,” who has “fine long golden hair” according to the Cat of the Canals POV, is the daughter of the Sailor's Wife. This distinction, taken together with Arya's account of the Sailor's Wife's mysterious past, has given rise to a tentative theory; that the Sailor's Wife is, in fact, Tysha, the long-lost love of Tyrion Lannister.

OMG, are you regretting inviting me to discuss these books?
 
I don't know! I feel like Sam has more of a role yet to play, but who the hell knows. And yes, I really enjoy the show and the Dunk and Egg short stories, and I'll probably even buy the history of Westeros thing that he just finished writing and is now supposed to be worked on by illustrators, but I wish he would focus on finishing the damned series! He's no spring chicken and of he croaks before he finishes them I'll be seriously PISSED! (Insensitive? Yes, but I don't care, lol).

I don't think Sam is in danger, I think they want to stop the Targaryens from gaining power and letting the dragons kill again.
 
I will never regret having this discussion with you! I love finding out this stuff! I was just telling my husband that I found out new theories and I wish I could tell him but I won't spoil anything for him since he hasn't read the books :censored:
And I so often have to hide my geeky obsession about the books because most people have only watched the show, so happy I can geek out now!!! :s1gyahoo:
 
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Winter Is Coming: Symbols and Hidden Meanings in a Game of Thrones
English
ISBN: 1625392125
EAN: 9781625392121
Publisher: Thought Catalog
Release Date: 05/08/2013
Synopsis:
Game of Thrones fans watch in delight as the epic battle of Lannister and Stark entangles the Seven Kingdoms. But only the sharpest notice how these houses echo Lancaster and York in the War of the Roses. Druids, Catholics, and even Zoroastrians wander through Westeros, reframing their religions for a new world of fantasy. But how medieval is Westeros? Did lady knights and pirates really battle across Europe? The book Winter is Coming: Symbols and Hidden Meanings in A Game of Thrones explores all this and more, from the echoes of history to the symbols and omens our beloved characters. Who is Jon Snow's mother and why is she a secret? What is Daenerys's real power, unknown even to her? Will these two characters share a destiny? Where is the red priestess's real Lightbringer and when will it arrive? Through dreams and prophecies, imagery and allegory, the deepest secrets of the series unfold, in an exploration friendly to watchers and readers alike.

I just ordered this! I'll share any juicy insights it provides.
 

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