Diets high in meat, eggs and dairy could be as harmful to health as smoking. Thoughts?

[kirstabelle]

http://www.theguardian.com/science/...otein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy?CMP=fb_gu

 

[Taterweight]

"Spend a couple of months looking at the labels on your food. There is a little bit of protein everywhere. If you eat breakfast, you might get 4g protein, but a piece of chicken for lunch may have 50g protein," said Longo, who skips lunch to control his calorie and protein intake."

A piece of chicken has 50g's???

 

[huneypie]

LOL that must be a mighty big piece of chicken

 

[huneypie]

@kirstabelle I'm not really sure how applicable that is to normies, but I definitely don't think it applies to DSers.

 

[newanatomy]

Maybe I should start smoking again. . .

 

[JackieOnLine]

4 grams of protein for breakfast? I don't get how anyone can eat like that - even as a pre-op that would have made me tired. I see people who eat a slice of toast and call it breakfast - I don't get that. :icon_scratch:

from the link

Teasing out the health effects of individual nutrients is notoriously difficult. The apparently harmful effects of a high-protein diet might be down to one or more other substances in meat, or driven by lifestyle factors that are more common in regular red meat eaters versus vegetarians.

yes, indeed

 

[KathyF]

It seems demonizing foods is getting out of hand. Don't eat dairy, wheat or meat. Watch out for those eggs, cream and butter. Avoid soy, be on the look out for vegetables high in oxalates and those that contribute to inflammation. Coffee is good, no... it's bad... wait, it's good again!

 

[Elizabeth N.]

Oh what BULLSHIT. :76:Must have been a slow news day.

FWIW, 50 grams of protein is a little over 7 oz. of chicken.

 

[k9ophile]

Oh, good grief! Just wait until there is a study rebutting all that. Remember coffee bad, then coffee good?

 

[Munchkin]

I think I remember a chicken breast from KFC is 50 or close to it!

Oh my... Seriously what's left for us to eat? As long as I have been aware of the news I've heard these scare stories. Same story, different food. Over, and over, and over. A few years ago we were going to die from eating grilled food too. If these stories were true, quite a few of us would be very dead by now.

 

[kirstabelle]

Looks like fresh air is the only thing safe to consume......cos that's clean and safe right?!

 

[kirstabelle]

Well even the NHS are bashing the 'study' - pile of crap! http://www.nhs.uk/news/2014/03March/Pages/high-protein-diet-may-be-harmful-for-middle-aged.aspx

 

[Spiky Bugger]

So for lunch, what can I have...

considering that I should avoid these things for my bladder:

Interstitial Cystitis--DIET AND LIFESTYLE CHANGES

Some patients find that making changes in their diet can help control symptoms. Try to avoid foods and beverages that can cause bladder irritation. Stop eating certain foods, one at a time, to see if your symptoms get better. Reduce or stop consuming caffeine, chocolate, carbonated beverages, citrus drinks, and foods with high levels of vitamin C.



Other foods that the Interstitial Cystitis Association lists as possibly causing bladder irritation are:

• Aged cheeses
• Alcohol
• Artificial sweeteners
• Fava and lima beans
• Meats that are cured, processed, smoked, canned, aged, or that contain nitrites
• Most fruits except blueberries, honeydew melon, and pears
• Nuts except almonds, cashews, and pine nuts
• Onions
• Rye bread
• Seasonings that contain MSG
• Sour cream
• Sourdough bread
• Soy
• Tea
• Tofu
• Tomatoes
• Yogurt

And then for kidney stones don't eat these:


Drinks

• Dark or "robust" beer
• Black tea
• Chocolate milk
• Cocoa
• Instant coffee
• Hot chocolate
• Juice made from high oxalate fruits (see below for high oxalate fruits)
• Ovaltine
• Soy drinks

Dairy

• Chocolate milk
• Soy cheese
• Soy milk
• Soy yogurt

Fats, Nuts, Seeds

• Nuts
• Nut butters
• Sesame seeds
• Tahini
• Soy nuts

Meat

• None

Starch

• Amaranth
• Buckwheat
• Cereal (bran or high fiber)
• Crisp bread (rye or wheat)
• Fruit cake
• Grits
• Pretzels
• Taro
• Wheat bran
• Wheat germ
• Whole wheat bread
• Whole wheat flour

Fruit

• Blackberries
• Blueberries
• Carambola
• Concord grapes
• Currents
• Dewberries
• Elderberries
• Figs
• Fruit cocktail
• Gooseberry
• Kiwis
• Lemon peel
• Lime peel
• Orange peel
• Raspberries
• Rhubarb
• Canned strawberries
• Tamarillo
• Tangerines

Vegetables

• Beans (baked, green, dried, kidney)
• Beets
• Beet greens
• Beet root
• Carrots
• Celery
• Chicory
• Collards
• Dandelion greens
• Eggplant
• Escarole
• Kale

Vegetables continued

• Leeks
• Okra
• Olives
• Parsley
• Peppers (chili and green)
• Pokeweed
• Potatoes (baked, boiled, fried)
• Rutabaga
• Spinach
• Summer squash
• Sweet potato
• Swiss chard
• Zucchini

Condiments

• Black pepper (more than 1 tsp.)
• Marmalade
• Soy sauce

Miscellaneous

• Chocolate
• Parsley

And limit these:

• Draft beer
• Carrot juice
• Brewed coffee
• Cranberry juice
• Grape juice
• Guinness draft beer
• Matetea tea
• Orange juice
• Rosehip tea
• Tomato juice
• Twining's black currant tea

Dairy

• Yogurt

Fats, nuts, seeds

• Flaxseed
• Sunflower seeds

Fruit

• Apples
• Applesauce
• Apricots
• Coconut
• Cranberries
• Mandarin orange
• Orange
• Fresh peaches
• Fresh pear
• Pineapples
• Purple and Damson plums
• Prunes
• Fresh strawberries

Meat

• Liver
• Sardines

Starch

• Bagels
• Brown rice
• Cornmeal
• Corn starch
• Corn tortilla
• Fig cookie
• Oatmeal
• Ravioli (no sauce)
• Spaghetti in red sauce
• Sponge cake
• Cinnamon Pop tart
• White bread

Vegetables

• Artichoke
• Asparagus
• Broccoli
• Brussel sprouts
• Carrots (canned)
• Corn
• Fennel
• Lettuce
• lima beans
• Mustard greens
• Onions
• Parsnip
• Canned peas
• Tomato
• Tomato soup
• Turnips
• Vegetable soup
• Watercress

Miscellaneous

• Ginger
• Malt
• Potato chips (less than 3.5 oz.)
• Strawberry jam/preserves
• Thyme

Anyone...anyone..Chef Buehler?

 

[kirstabelle]

lol - touché

 

[Taterweight]

That looks like a watermelon and cucumber diet! @Spiky Bugger !