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Spiky Bugger

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While The Supremes are cogitating...

MiniSue decided to take a job that has long-term security and a defined benefit plan...all in all a good plan for a single woman. The downsides are a grand a month pay cut and a six-to-twelve month training period, holding "temp" status, with no benefits.

COBRA would cost her $700/month. An ObamaCare policy, with no subsidy because her income is too high, will cost somewhere between $200-300/month.

She can deal with a $1200/month reduction-in-pay-increase-in-expenses...for that year. But a $1900/month hit would have been unmanageable.

So...what ObamaCare will be doing...at zero expense to taxpayers...is allowing her to move to a job that will, after about two or three years, have her making more money, paying more in income taxes, stimulating the economy (because she's that kind of girl) and providing her with a pension that will keep her...a single woman with no siblings and no children to care for her in her old age...with a roof over her head and something other than cat food on her menu.

And yet, there are those who will consider her an irresponsible deadbeat, sucking at the government teat. They, of course, are morons.



(A former friend said I was a deadbeat for going to school on my GI Bill. At the time, it cost the Feds about $10k plus a few fees for the first two years, at which point I went to student loans that I think amounted to about $25k, which had to be repaid. So, let's say the Feds invested maybe $12k in my education. No only was my after-graduation tax liability on my earnings well over $6k per year, my income moved our joint tax rate into a higher bracket and we paid higher taxes on Mr. Sue's earnings. It took me far less than two years to "repay" the feds for my "free" education...and the rest of my working years were gravy to them. The friend is a "former" friend not because she criticized me, but...among other things...because I realized she was too stupid to understand the math and I don't hang with stupid people.)

(PS--she felt that her cosmetology school, paid for by the Feds because her FATHER was a disabled veteran, was legit because he was disabled. Uhm...he had a disability rating, but worked and made GOOD money his whole life, and WTF does his disability have to do with her "beauty college" education? She was, after all, an adult and he had no legal obligation to pay for that. For those who care, THAT benefit has been eliminated.)
 
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The portability of insurance coverage with ACA is one of the most important features of the program, having the widest sociological impact IMHO. It prevents an employee with a medical condition (or who has a dependent with a medical condition) from feeling trapped in indentured servitude to a miserable job, due to fear of losing health benefits. It allows the employee to tell the employer to "take this job and shove it" and get a new job that doesn't have employer-paid benefits, or to start their own business. It is a pro-labor law because it limits the inequitable stranglehold the employer otherwise has on the employee - without including a union in the equation. And eventually, it will make access to heath care independent from employment as a benefit, which is as it should be. Health care should be a UNIVERSAL benefit.
 
**** me running... How can she be a deadbeat when she is paying for her premiums without a subsidy? And I earned that $14,000+/- that I got under the GI bill. I also repaid every cent of the $7,000 I needed in student loans for me to get my degree. When I review my earnings over my lifetime, I see that my educated income is at least 6 times my uneducated income. Stoopid people make my head hurt.
 
**** me running... How can she be a deadbeat when she is paying for her premiums without a subsidy? And I earned that $14,000+/- that I got under the GI bill. I also repaid every cent of the $7,000 I needed in student loans for me to get my degree. When I review my earnings over my lifetime, I see that my educated income is at least 6 times my uneducated income. Stoopid people make my head hurt.
x-actly.
 
The portability of insurance coverage with ACA is one of the most important features of the program, having the widest sociological impact IMHO. It prevents an employee with a medical condition (or who has a dependent with a medical condition) from feeling trapped in indentured servitude to a miserable job, due to fear of losing health benefits. It allows the employee to tell the employer to "take this job and shove it" and get a new job that doesn't have employer-paid benefits, or to start their own business. It is a pro-labor law because it limits the inequitable stranglehold the employer otherwise has on the employee - without including a union in the equation. And eventually, it will make access to heath care independent from employment as a benefit, which is as it should be. Health care should be a UNIVERSAL benefit.


"And eventually, it will make access to heath care independent from employment as a benefit, which is as it should be."


¡Ojalá!

Of course, THAT Spanish word, kind of the equivalent of "from your lips to God's ears," comes from the Arabic ...you can see the Allah in there if you look hard enough...is obviously from Kenyan Marxism and should be suspect!
 
The portability of insurance coverage with ACA is one of the most important features of the program, having the widest sociological impact IMHO. It prevents an employee with a medical condition (or who has a dependent with a medical condition) from feeling trapped in indentured servitude to a miserable job, due to fear of losing health benefits. It allows the employee to tell the employer to "take this job and shove it" and get a new job that doesn't have employer-paid benefits, or to start their own business. It is a pro-labor law because it limits the inequitable stranglehold the employer otherwise has on the employee - without including a union in the equation. And eventually, it will make access to heath care independent from employment as a benefit, which is as it should be. Health care should be a UNIVERSAL benefit.
Otoh...our current congress promises to be as effective in getting that change accomplished as...well...this one:

 
Obamacare has given me the option of not remaining stuck with my current employer in what would be the equivalent of indentured servitude post my cancer diagnosis. Removal of pre-existing condition clauses is *huge* for people like me.

I am happy to pay taxes to fund the GI Bill to support people who have served the country on my behalf. It's a benefit of the job - not a social service, in my view.
 
As an outsider I view it as an immense benefit. I never even considered having a pre-existing condition as a reason to stay in a job. But health care is mostly free in Alberta. We used to have a nominal monthly premium which will be reinstated sometime this year.
Dental isn't covered under our health care, nor are prescription costs.
But I don't have to worry about hospital visits or stays, blood tests, doctor's appointments, specialist appointments, X-ray, ultrasounds, or any specialized testing costs.
I will put my hand up and say our health care system is disintegrating as the successive and current provincial and federal goverments have slowly eviscerated it.
And yes I chose to go out of country for a surgery not offered in my province. But I am grateful for our medical system and hope Obama Care at some point gets the favorable press it deserves.
BTW -love all of Aaron Sorkin's shows- West Wing and Newsroom were my faves though!
 

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