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brooklyngirl

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Help! We got a puppy, she's a baby, only 7 weeks old today. I'm madly in love. Buuuuttttt, this crate training thing is bananas! She sounds like she's being tortured by Iraqi prison guards and I feel like the worst human being on the planet. I totally thought that the early childhood teacher in me could handle this without a problem since I don't give in to tantrums of 3 and 4 year olds and don't balk at manipulation, but this is so much worse! :IL:
 
Let her burn herself out then reward her as soon as she is calm and contented. They are manipulative *******s. I've got three of the monsters.
 
Kirmy- what did you reward with at this age? She can't chew the dog treats yet, even little pieces, so I thought little bits of chicken would be good and the vet tech said no
 
What kind of puppy did you get? What did you name her? And we need a puppy date! Let our two and yours get to know each other...it's good socialization.

As to what to reward her with, there are treats out there that are very small and you may need to even cut (break) them in have. You need something like this one: Kong Mini Meaty Bites

And make sure you make her crate inviting...keep the door open all day so she can wander in and out and not feel trapped. Keep some snugly type toys in there for her to sleep with or just cuddle with. When you have her in the car, get her use to the back seat as soon as you can. We used a seat belt type harness for almost two years unless we were traveling overnight, then ours rode in their crate. NOW, they stay in the back seat without restraint. It's dangerous to have a puppy (dog) use to being up front...can cause accidents and get hurt.
 
here are some helpful suggestions for you about crate training.

you will be so glad you did it: my dog who learned to "kennel up" as an adult just tolerates it but my two that learned as puppies really like to be in a crate and go in during the day when they feel like it just to nap.
 
from Sarah's blog at the same website:

very dog of every age should know how to be crated calmly and easily.

Why? Because life happens and when it happens that is not the time to train your dog.

Times I have crated by dogs and been happy I could:


  • Post surgery
  • Post injury - see Heal to Heel for info on my experience here.
  • When workmen are in the house
  • After skunking
  • When nondoggy family and friends are visiting (and yes, I have a few of those and I love them anyway just like they love me anyway).
  • Travel
  • Car rides
  • After a bath
  • When other dogs visit
  • Introducing a new pet into the home
  • Fostering dogs
The list goes on.

Crating is a gift I give every puppy in my care so when the skill is needed later in life we are ready. And most of the time, the dogs love their crates. Read: Melissa Fischer’s Guest Blog: Your Dog's Crate: A Lifelong Haven
 
What kind of puppy did you get? What did you name her? And we need a puppy date! Let our two and yours get to know each other...it's good socialization.

As to what to reward her with, there are treats out there that are very small and you may need to even cut (break) them in have. You need something like this one: Kong Mini Meaty Bites

And make sure you make her crate inviting...keep the door open all day so she can wander in and out and not feel trapped. Keep some snugly type toys in there for her to sleep with or just cuddle with. When you have her in the car, get her use to the back seat as soon as you can. We used a seat belt type harness for almost two years unless we were traveling overnight, then ours rode in their crate. NOW, they stay in the back seat without restraint. It's dangerous to have a puppy (dog) use to being up front...can cause accidents and get hurt.
She's a dachshund/terrier mix and she's just 7 weeks now. We named her Heidi :)
I'll look for those treats since we have to head back to petsmart later. We borrowed a crate from a friend and it's wayyyy too big. We tried blocking most of it off and it's just not working. She peed/pooped every time she's been in there for more than 10 mins.
 
why did the vet say no to meat? that makes no sense to me. Did the chicken have bones? Cooked bones are very bad for dogs (cooked ones can splinter in the stomach and tear up the dog's gut but raw bones are OK, generally) but meat? Any dog old enough to be away from its Mother ought to be OK eating small bits of meat.

I have shown Newfs and currently have a Bernese Mountain Dog. Dogs are very smart and understand us much better than we understand them; if whining and crying works then they will manipulate you with that. S/he is not being tortured to spend time in his crate. If you don't hang tough now, while your puppy is little, it will only get harder until it really is nearly impossible to crate train. Just be sure that the crate does not become where you send the dog when you are correcting him / he is in trouble. You don't want him/her to think the crate equates anything negative.

When he/she is crying in these early stages its probably because he/she misses you.They are pack animals and from birth are used to being surrounded by others. At first, just make sure the crate is someplace the dog can see you, speak soothingly to him/her as you go about your daily business. Periodically put him her into it for a few minutes, speak soothingly, then let him/her out and cuddle hime/her for a minute. A few days later, do the same process but start slowly moving it a little further away but to where you can still be heard. Eventually the crate can creep to wherever you really want to permanently locate it, but puppy has had enough transition time to not be afraid of having been abandoned.

Think of it as helping him/her be a more successful adult dog --- a crate becomes their "safe spot" for the rest of their lives (when young people come over that stress out my boy his crate is the place he puts himself to hang out in peace and quiet. Or ,when he is depressed because I am out of town, he goes to his crate and stays there of his own accord. Its his comfort spot.)

Also look at it as an immunization of sorts from a lot of getting into trouble. Our boy doesn't roam around the house when no one is home. If he's home alone (which admittedly isn't often), he's in his roomy, comfy cozy crate with his chew antlers, which keeps him from eating the sofa, poo-ing on the floor, and generally getting into mischief and causing problems like he would if left with total freedom and no supervision. Also, I feel much better about him being in his crate when no one is home instead of in the fenced in yard because I know in his crate in the house he is safe from other animals, neighborhood kids who might open the fence gate and let him out to get lost, or worst case, dog nappers.
Good advice 4K! I agree with e dry thing you said, I don't want pets or kids that are a menace to society ;) I'm a firm believer in setting the tone for rules and discipline. I guess I just overestimated my own ability to deal with the consequences so I keep feeling like I'm doing the wrong thing no matter what. Ok, so I read a bunch about the peaceful transitioning to the crate like you mentioned, but I'm confused as to what the heck to do with her at night?

Oh, and she said that I shouldn't give chicken because dogs, particularly dachshunds, are prone to pancreatitis and that high fat foods would make it more likely. Doesn't make sense to me since boiled chicken has such little fat and I'd only give her pea sized pieces at a time. Plus, everyone makes a big deal now about dogs being carnivores and not being meant to eat grains so I thought it'd be a good thing. I'm quick to back down in a situation where an "expert" is telling me something that goes against what makes sense to be because I feel like they're supposed to "know better" but that's not always the case.
 
My folks gave up after their puppy wouldn't stop crying & shrieking. She's been sleeping on their bed ever since.

She hates being locked in the crate. She hates being locked anywhere. A closed door upsets her. Funny, though, she loves her crate when the door is open. She goes in there and chews her bones for hours.
 
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from Sarah's blog at the same website:

very dog of every age should know how to be crated calmly and easily.

Why? Because life happens and when it happens that is not the time to train your dog.

Times I have crated by dogs and been happy I could:


  • Post surgery
  • Post injury - see Heal to Heel for info on my experience here.
  • When workmen are in the house
  • After skunking
  • When nondoggy family and friends are visiting (and yes, I have a few of those and I love them anyway just like they love me anyway).
  • Travel
  • Car rides
  • After a bath
  • When other dogs visit
  • Introducing a new pet into the home
  • Fostering dogs
The list goes on.

Crating is a gift I give every puppy in my care so when the skill is needed later in life we are ready. And most of the time, the dogs love their crates. Read: Melissa Fischer’s Guest Blog: Your Dog's Crate: A Lifelong Haven
Good stuff Jackie, thanks :)
 
I'm having trouble with the pics, let's see if this one works...
This is when we first brought her home on Thursday and stopped to get provisions from petsmart. Don't mind me without makeup!
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I agree 4k, I should've questioned the vet more but she was in and out and they had a couple emergencies there at the time and the tech spent a lot of time with us. She actually said to give her carrots, apples and sweet potatoes as treats. Did she think she was talking to a weight watchers member? ;) dogs need protein and fat just like us, no? :tongue:
 
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