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Wow, I don't understand this at all. Why are these surgeons not stating the ACTUAL name of the procedure they're performing?!? If they're so confident that it's "the same" or "just as good" then just be freekin honest about it! The shadiness is a huge problem.
 
@brooklyngirl Exactly! It reminds of being a kid and parents asking about this or that and I would lie by omission. I wasn't technically lying but knew it was wrong and if my parents found out I was probably going to get switched. How can someone consent to something if they are not informed, they can't. Plus they are billing insurance, in some instances, for the DS. What the HELL are they thinking!
 
Thank you for all that information! I really appreciate it. I will think about everything you said - valuable information. I've read on other forums that the few other people I've found who have had the SADI-S DS also seem like they didn't really know exactly what they were getting into either. My true wish is that doctors would be much more clear about the different surgeries.

Again, thank you.
Get a copy of your surgery report. All the records, NOW! Before he finds out you have/are complaining.
 
So, in summary, here are the ones currently known to be doing the SADI or Loop DS:

Metz
Roslin
Gagner
Andres Sanchez-Pernautez
Jawad
Cooper in Indiana
Enochs
 
Dr. Ungson also offered it to at least one person who posted on OH. He has also written a post himself on OH explaining the proported advantages of the SADI and that the early results look good, though he acknowledged that longterm results aren't in yet.

The person on OH who wanted the SADI with Dr. Ungson ended up with just a sleeve due to abnormal bile duct anatomy. He was very, very fortunate to have an experienced DS surgeon who recognized this anatomy and did what was safe for the patient. In the end, the decision would have been the same with either DS or SADI as the duodenum could not be safely divided as needed for either operation.
 
I reached out to Dr. Sánchez Pernaute, the surgeon who invented the SADI , and with his permission have attached a note from him below. He has also graciously provided his email address, [email protected] , should anyone wish to contact him with questions.

Dear Hilary,
I started doing SADI-S more than 7 years ago. I had performed standard DS since the late '90s; DS was a difficult surgery to perform, and in the early 2000s very few surgeons in the world attempted to complete a laparoscopic DS. After many lap-DS I was trying to simplify the technique and came aware that when you are preserving the pylorus there is no need to perform a Roux-en-Y diversion, which is mostly build up to elude alkaline reflux; if the pylorus, the natural barrier for biliary reflux, was left intact, there was no need to perform this Roux-en-Y to complete the switch. The only problem that I had was to decide the adequate limb lengths, as it was very easy for a three-limb operation, but there was not a great experience in a one-loop reconstruction. I initiated a prospective trial, accepted by the Ethics Committee of my institution, in which I completed SADI-S with a 200 cm common (and alimentary) limb. Patients did great, but I had to re-operate 4 cases for undernutrition. Perhaps they were not properly selected or perhaps the operation was too aggressive. I changed the common loop length to 250 to get a safer operation. Since then I have operated almost 150 patients more, for a total of almost 200 patients submitted to SADI-S; fifty patients have now more than 5 years follow-up.
Results are very good in weight loss, and these have been publisher in Obesity Surgery, SOARD, and presented at the ASMBS Annual Meeting, and the IFSO world Congress. The operation has been performed live for the New York Sleeve Gastrectomy Meeting (2012) and to IFSO World Congress 2014 just today. Results on diabetes will be presented in November at the Obesity Week in Boston.
Results in the mid and long-term are equal to those obtained with traditional DS through a much simpler operation. Every patient submitted to SADI-S must feel safe, as the rate of complications is lower than after a DS with the same, or even better, weight and metabolic results (there is a higher bile acid exposure to the intestinal cells, and this has demonstrated an important incretin function, with improvement of the beta-cell pancreatic function). Biliary reflux was carefully studied in the first series of patients, and results were similar to the controls in the normal population.
You, and the patients in the forum can write me and ask me whatever you want.
Thank you very much for your interest,
Andrés Sánchez Pernaute, PhD, MD
Hospital Clínico San Carlos
Hospital Universitario Quirón
Madrid
Spain
 
"with the same, or even better, weight and metabolic results"??? That has NOT been my observation on these boards.
 

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