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Munchkin

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Or is this just another weird transfer addiction? Or maybe I have been spending too much time on FB! Is it just my imagination or have things really changed?

A jillion years ago when I had my surgery I recovered, and went on with my life. I did what I had to do, ate my protein and took my vites. Life wasn't perfect and I never got the results I had hoped for but everything was better than before. I stuck with the promise I made to myself to pay it forward and help others. My life postop is pretty normal. No worries! I participated on the forums and watched people progress from newbie to postop. A few had some issues but for the most part they recovered and went on with life. Just like me.

The DS does take over your life for a while. You do wonder about every ache and pain. But that time does end and your new life becomes just life. Some people do develop issues. I was one of the unlucky ones who got a hernia. Until I can get it fixed I just learned to stretch out on the bed on my stomach till it goes back into place. Problem solved. I don't like it but I learned to manage.

Let's fast forward to today. It seems like people are loaded with problems. Lots of trips to the hospital. They have endocrinologists and hematologists. Lots of psychological and physiological issues that seem to never go away. Their lives are loaded with 'ologists' of one flavor or another. Seems like they are medicalized for life. And the drama over their care is endless. Are all these folks this sick or have they become addicted to medical care because the DS made it impossible to be addicted to food? And they had to have something to do?

Why are people years postop still getting dehydrated and going to the hospital for banana bags? Dehydration isn't that uncommon for newbies but once you can eat and drink normally, it shouldn't happen to us more than it does to the general population. And these are not people running marathons and doing extreme sports. Knowing you have to drink is just common sense.

When did taking a few supplements become as complex as the the first NASA moon mission? All 90% of us need to do is just remember to TAKE them. You can make this easy or make it almost impossible. Yes, some supplements go better with others for optimum absorption. And some days you leave the house without eyeliner. Just take the pills. Over time it all evens out. I feel sorry for the other 10% who have real issues. It's more work for you!

Why are people with no real issues having labs done 3, 4, or 6 times a year? And going batshit crazy about the results? Buchwald was my surgeon. And he probably wasn't the best because too many of his patients are still fat. But from a metabolic perspective he was right on top of things. When I had my surgery it was becoming popular to have labs done more often and I asked him about it. His answer(not a quote) was that major surgical trauma, like the DS, screwed things up for a while and probably the first real results you get will be at the 1 year mark. And that being female and older I would probably have problems with PTH and D because it was part of the ageing process for most women. I should do as much as possible to fight the trend but it happens to most normies too. Most normies just don't get tested. And while we are at it, lab results on salts and B vites are a snapshot. Where you are today and yesterday. Period. They change daily. Lab results on vites stored in fat are long term. Trends over time are what's important. And unless you are one of the 10%, getting those numbers too often is not necessarily good.

If you think I am talking about you, I'm probably not so don't get your feelers hurt. All the drama and mass hysteria are on FB. Lots of people acting like experts and giving out bad information. A few people who are really sick and lots of others just sticking their feet in the pool looking for entertainment. And a lot of newbies who are being scared to death and are now expecting to have problems.

Don't borrow trouble. The vast majority of us are doing just fine.
 
That's very encouraging because, to be honest, I have been reading the horror stories and if not put into perspective, it seems like I'm doing exactly what my youngest son thinks - causing myself a lifetime of medical problems. It's good to hear a reassuring voice right about now. Thank you!
 
I don't post on any FB WLS group so I can not comment about there.
 
That's very encouraging because, to be honest, I have been reading the horror stories and if not put into perspective, it seems like I'm doing exactly what my youngest son thinks - causing myself a lifetime of medical problems. It's good to hear a reassuring voice right about now. Thank you!
Ditto! Thank you @Munchkin. My kids (ages 35, 28, 20) are in the same place - really concerned about what I'm 'doing myself'. Just sent them your post.
 
I think more than a few people, who have no real medical issues, just crave attention. I think it is a little like Munchhausen syndrome or at the very least a hypochondriac. They want to live a medically driven life feeling special because they had WLS.
 
I belong to a couple of Facebook forums, too. I often see those posts and wonder if something is wrong with ME because I am not having the issues that they are. I mean, so maybe I have some aches and pains, maybe I have some weird poo sometimes, but I am not sure that taking to Facebook and telling the world or getting another specialist is the answer.

I believe that I have received good, sound advice regarding nutrion and supplements. I truly believe that if I follow that advice to the best of my ability, I will be just fine. Yes, I need my labs done (just had a complete work up and waiting for the results). Yes, I need to tweak my vites based on those labs. Yes, I have had one trip to the ER for dehydration (I had the flu and couldn't keep anything inside of me for two days). But overall, I am doing well. I don't think I need to see 100 different specialists to deal with my DS.

I began educating myself a year before I had the surgery. I know my body. I know what I need to do.

So, I guess that I am saying that I agree with you Munchkin, I really do.
 
And while I am on a rant...I am so sick of seeing insurance questions asked EVERYWHERE.
Will my insurance pay for the DS? How much will this cost me out of pocket? And then get mad because someone can't tell you what YOUR insurance will pay for.

You know what? When I started looking into WLS, I got my explanation of benfits and I read that sucker forwards and backwards. I know all of the stipulations. I know that I have to keep my NUT and surgeon appointments (even though I don't want to) or they won't cover any future complications should they arise.
I called the insurance company MYSELF and asked questions. That is taking personal responsibility because I was serious about the surgery.

I understand the people that need help with appeals and the legalities of it. That is completely understandable. But seriously, can't these people pick up a phone and talk to someone that works at the insurance company?

END RANT
 
Ditto! Thank you @Munchkin. My kids (ages 35, 28, 20) are in the same place - really concerned about what I'm 'doing myself'. Just sent them your post.
Mine are 33,31,28, 26 and only the youngest is having fits about it. Last night he told me to get used to not being able to eat because I would never ve able to eat without getting sick again (?!?!?!).

It doesn't help that their aunt had the RNY and was sick and weak until she died (not due to RNY - she had a stroke) a couple years later. I tried to explain that (a) she was in horrible health to start and I am in relatively good health, (b) she continued to try to overeat and had severe dumping and (c) I am having an entirely different surgery. Anyway, I guess he will figure it out when I'm healthy and happy and a whole lot smaller.

The older two are totally OK with it. The oldest went with me when I had my lap band surgery and she knows I've had all sorts of issues with the "crap band" so she's glad I'm getting things fixed up - and glad I'm not having the RNY. The older son trusts me to know what I'm doing. My younger daughter shares some of her "baby" brother's concerns but she's a whole lot more positive about it, pointing out what *might* happen instead of it *will* happen. They're concerned of course, but not freaking out.

I just wish I could reach the youngest and let him know that it's highly unlikely that this surgery will make me permanently sick and/or disabled.
 
I think more than a few people, who have no real medical issues, just crave attention. I think it is a little like Munchhausen syndrome or at the very least a hypochondriac. They want to live a medically driven life feeling special because they had WLS.

This ^^

I do not need that kind of attention. I would much rather feel special because I've accomplished my weight loss goals and I'm healthy.
That's not to say I won't post if I have issues or questions or need advice, but it won't be purely for attention.
 
You aren't one of THEM. And you know it!

Wasn't sure...because I AM falling the fuck apart and the only reason I haven't been whining about it daily is that I've been falling the fuck apart.

Now I have to go figure out what got you going.
 
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Not much to add to this other than to say this is one of the best and most thought provoking posts I’ve seen.

And to our lil lol ole @Spiky Bugger …..Darlin, we’re all falling the fuck apart…that’s what getting old is. A slow degredating slippery slope back to the dirt from which we came. Some just do it better (more gracefully), than others!

And then the really tough ones, do it with this really twisted up and convoluted sense of irony and humor such as yourself. I will opt to be in your camp any day and when it’s “my time” to check the hell out of here, I want to be laughing my ass off still owing all my creditors!
 
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The earlier in life you get healthy, the less likely you are to have serious issues in late middle age (that's what I'm calling the 60s - amIright Spiky?). If you don't suffer from diabetes and other metabolic diseases for years before the DS, you will have less excessively glycosylated proteins, cardiovascular plaques, hypertension damage, etc. You joints won't be as damaged. If you don't smoke or quit soon, you can expect COPD or lung cancer. The list goes on.

And if you follow the DS rules, you're less likely to have constant problems that you will want to come to the message boards to bitch about.
 
I think people are way too quick to go to the ER and the advice to go to the ER seems to be the standard reply to every ailment, ache, pain, nausea, vomiting, and symptom posted.
90% of the things people are rushing off to the ER for are not true emergencies.
 

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