ChunkyMunky
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I am wanting to have a revision.I will probably be a self-pay.Does anyone have an idea as to how much we are talking here.
RNY revision to DS
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I don't, but someone will. do you know what surgeon you will be using?
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ChunkyMunky
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Will probably use my old surgeon Dr Garth Davis.
Still Waters
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Travel is a small price to pay to get the expertise it takes to get the job done right. ESPECIALLY, the revision you are proposing. The list is short, but appropriate for RnY to DS...
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There are VERY FEW surgeons who are TRULY EXPERIENCED in an RnY-to-DS procedure. At this point, you don't want to take ANY chances, even if Davis is excellent at the RnY and has done DSs along the way.
I was just a band-to-DS revision and drove past two or three DS surgeons to get to Keshishian.
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Wow...why was that so BIG.?
Elizabeth N.
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Because it's so important that your computer knew it should be big.
Chunky, if you go to Dr. Davis, you will get an ERNY, not a DS. He hardly ever even does a virgin DS, much less real revisions.
well, hell!
Chunky - that is still a good site if you are in any doubt about what surgery you want. if you know you want a DS it would make sense to get a surgeon who has done your type of revision - it's a very hard surgery.
SB - I think it's big because that's the size she posted it in. in which she posted it. and the important thing
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Hi again, Chunky! Glad you found your way here.
As you can tell by now, we have strong concerns about Dr. Davis. I would add that given that your prior surgery with him failed, why would you go back to him for another operation?
And everyone else is right, if he does your surgery you will not end up with a DS. You will get talked into ERNY, which is not at all the same as a DS, which is less likely to get you to your goal, which will not resolve any problems you have from your pouch because you will still have your pouch (instead of the sleeve gastrectomy of the DS), and which actually has a higher risk of nutritional complications because you get the combination of a pouch - without the regulation of stomach emptying of the pyloric valve - and the malabsorption that the ERNY would add. The worst of both worlds, IMHO.
I don't know much about you, but in general, we are seeing more people with RNY failure all the time. Sure, some patients are noncompliant with the very strict dietary requirements, but many others do everything right and yet never get even close to a normal weight, or experience weight gain despite their best efforts. the failure rate for RNY, usually defined as not losing at least 50% of excess weight, is about 30%. That's a lot of people failing, and I for one don't believe they all brought this failure upon themselves. It is the nature of the operation and its limitations. And that doesn't even count people who lose, let's say, 51-60% of their excess weight and can't do any better no matter how hard they try. If that were me, I wouldn't feel very successful, but in the world of bariatric surgery they are counted as "successes".
So I hope you are open to the idea of travel. I wish there were a surgeon closer to you that would offer you a conversion to a true DS, but at the moment there isn't.
As you can tell by now, we have strong concerns about Dr. Davis. I would add that given that your prior surgery with him failed, why would you go back to him for another operation?
And everyone else is right, if he does your surgery you will not end up with a DS. You will get talked into ERNY, which is not at all the same as a DS, which is less likely to get you to your goal, which will not resolve any problems you have from your pouch because you will still have your pouch (instead of the sleeve gastrectomy of the DS), and which actually has a higher risk of nutritional complications because you get the combination of a pouch - without the regulation of stomach emptying of the pyloric valve - and the malabsorption that the ERNY would add. The worst of both worlds, IMHO.
I don't know much about you, but in general, we are seeing more people with RNY failure all the time. Sure, some patients are noncompliant with the very strict dietary requirements, but many others do everything right and yet never get even close to a normal weight, or experience weight gain despite their best efforts. the failure rate for RNY, usually defined as not losing at least 50% of excess weight, is about 30%. That's a lot of people failing, and I for one don't believe they all brought this failure upon themselves. It is the nature of the operation and its limitations. And that doesn't even count people who lose, let's say, 51-60% of their excess weight and can't do any better no matter how hard they try. If that were me, I wouldn't feel very successful, but in the world of bariatric surgery they are counted as "successes".
So I hope you are open to the idea of travel. I wish there were a surgeon closer to you that would offer you a conversion to a true DS, but at the moment there isn't.
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