Medical Marijuana and Cancer

[Sheanie]

Need some counsel from my peeps. My beloved BIL has lung cancer and is wasting away during his chemo treatments. Can't stomach anything. His wife, a nurses aide, was with him at doctors office when offered a MMC and she went off on a toot, saying he couldn't have one because then she'd have to "cart his ass around" because he couldn't drive on Medical MJ.

What do you collectively know about this subject? I'm in Michigan. I know you cannot drive under the influence of ANY mind altering drug, legal or not. But is this true about MJ?

What about nausea? This poor man cannot keep water down due to nausea. I feel like I need to go choke my SIL right now. She's a ******* vegetarian (all of a sudden) and cannot handle even deli chicken to make him soup. ******* useless bitch.

I brought him all kinds of protein drinks, Isopure, chicken soup, bean soup, yeast rolls, etc. And it was the only food in the house.

 

[newanatomy]

Of course he can not drive under the influence of MJ. It is truly a drug and will affect his motor skills. I would hope for his sake though, that he would be allowed to smoke it for the relief it will give him during such a terrible time.

 

[DianaCox]

I would most DEFINITELY be smoking ganja in his situation - it can stimulate his appetite as well as treat the nausea.

WTF is wrong with your SIL?? Why the **** can't SHE drive if he's somewhat impaired on pot? Would she deny him narcotics for the same reason to treat pain?? What a selfish ****! And he need HIGH protein, in concentrated form, to repair the damage caused by the chemo to the normal cells.

I personally won't drive at ALL when in any way under the influence, whether alcohol, pain meds or anything else - but people build a tolerance to pot - both of my kids have cards and use it for various ailments - yes, excuses, but they are adults - including anxiety, depression, ADD, IBS, GERD, endometriosis, migraines and joint pain - and I know they both drive with pot in their systems, to some extent. And yes, they both are older and in poorer shape at 29 and 32 than I was at their age, which coincidentally were my ages when I gave birth to them.

 

[robs477]

I wish I could give some thoughts or facts that may help. I just wanted to say I will be wishing your Family the best.

 

[JackieOnLine]

I hope he can get some, it should help with the nausea and encourage him to eat. poor guy!

 

[brooklyngirl]

Well, how selfish is she???

So, I don't know if the doc is recommending smoking or using the oil, but I believe the oil doesn't make you high, just not sure on which things the oil is and isn't used for.

Also, he probably doesn't need a joint hanging out of his mouth all the time to feel better. Just like pain pills, you can use it and feel the effects for a while and it fades over time. I think it wouldn't be smart to drive for and hour or 2 (depending on the quality, I stopped smoking when all the new hybrid strains came out and they were too strong for me) and do things between lighting up.

 

[jillc]

IMO medical marijuana will help him immeasurably. As stated before, it will increase his hunger, decrease his pain levels, and help with his nausea. Your SIL needs to stop being selfish and find a solution so your BIL can have it.
When I was younger, I was a big smoker of it (I lived in the UK and even had a couple trips to Amsterdam). I loved my husband but was miserable in my marriage so I smoked to stop me from being an utter bitch to my lovely ex (great guy but I was miserable - still love him but I'm glad we don't live together any more).
Don't smoke it and haven't since I left the UK 11 years ago, but from my experience, I think your BIL needs to disregard his wife and start smoking/ingesting/etc. And while driving whilst totally stoned is not advisable, that phase doesn't last that long and he can drive when that phase wears off - or, hell, take a taxi or a bus.
Btw, I think the SIL needs a swift kick of the arse.

 

[SHales]

I wish your SIL could have his pain, nausea and suffering for a week. If pot helps him, he should have it! Most states don't have a blood alcohol level standard for MJ but it does fall under DUI just like Rx meds and alcohol. Depending on what/how he is taking it, it can impair driving skills. If he can get CBD without the THC he won't get high but will get relief. I don't know if that is possible in your state.

 

[newanatomy]

I wish your SIL could have his pain, nausea and suffering for a week. If pot helps him, he should have it! Most states don't have a blood alcohol level standard for MJ but it does fall under DUI just like Rx meds and alcohol. Depending on what/how he is taking it, it can impair driving skills. If he can get CBD without the THC he won't get high but will get relief. I don't know if that is possible in your state.

I hate to thread hijack but . . . How are you? How is your family? I haven't heard enough from you lately. XO!

 

[Sheanie]

Well, my dear, sweet BIL was helped immensely by my homemade chicken noodle soup. I'm doing another batch for him today. He's able to eat very small amounts without throwing everything up. My niece, their only child, (and there's a story there about her even coming into existence) is my husband's godchild. We took her to dinner and a road trip over holiday. She told our family her dad was able to eat and wasn't vomiting. Funny thing is, privately BIL had just shared with Mr Sheanie that same morning that he hadn't eaten in a week and was throwing up even water. So either niece and wife are stupidly unaware, or he's hiding it from them. Either way, they SHOULD be able to see his frame lacking about 50 pounds. He's the same build as my husband, so he used to weigh around 170-ish. He is now my weight, around 120. Skin and bones, a walking skeleton.

I don't know very much about medical marijuana. I do know that eating it produced the most consistent blood levels in clients we tested when I worked in the court system. And that's the preferred delivery system for people with lung ailments who can't smoke it. Problem is, at his current state, his only option is smoking it, to get it in his system.

His oncologist OFFERED him a MMC, and his ******* WIFE refused it FOR HIM. @Diana, you are right, she is a ****. And I do not use that word lightly. Of course, she does other things (along with her daughter) that thoroughly piss me off. She never cooks, has become a staunch carb-whore vegetarian, and they eat out constantly. So home made comfort foods don't exist in their home. And while BIL has quit smoking, SHE STILL SMOKES in his presence, and offers him drags on her cigarettes. His brother does the same thing at their mother's house (my in-laws).

His wife refuses the MMC because she believes he won't be able to drive himself anywhere. But get this: She's on disability and doesn't work. Neither does their daughter, who is 25 and still lives at home. She was concieved when SIL was on the pill and took an antibiotic. Didn't know she was Pg until she felt movement. Then, when she was visibly pregnant and the baby kicked, she would SLAP the baby, IN UTERO, hard. Granted, she's a fruitcake on a good day, but THAT was too much.

Thank you, my Peeps, for all your advice. We are working on the "wife" and "daughter".

 

[SHales]

I hate to thread hijack but . . . How are you? How is your family? I haven't heard enough from you lately. XO!

I am ok. Family are all cray cray! I will update soon. I hope you are well, I think of you often and hope to get back up there this summer.

 

[brooklyngirl]

Well, my dear, sweet BIL was helped immensely by my homemade chicken noodle soup. I'm doing another batch for him today. He's able to eat very small amounts without throwing everything up. My niece, their only child, (and there's a story there about her even coming into existence) is my husband's godchild. We took her to dinner and a road trip over holiday. She told our family her dad was able to eat and wasn't vomiting. Funny thing is, privately BIL had just shared with Mr Sheanie that same morning that he hadn't eaten in a week and was throwing up even water. So either niece and wife are stupidly unaware, or he's hiding it from them. Either way, they SHOULD be able to see his frame lacking about 50 pounds. He's the same build as my husband, so he used to weigh around 170-ish. He is now my weight, around 120. Skin and bones, a walking skeleton.

I don't know very much about medical marijuana. I do know that eating it produced the most consistent blood levels in clients we tested when I worked in the court system. And that's the preferred delivery system for people with lung ailments who can't smoke it. Problem is, at his current state, his only option is smoking it, to get it in his system.

His oncologist OFFERED him a MMC, and his ******* WIFE refused it FOR HIM. @Diana, you are right, she is a ****. And I do not use that word lightly. Of course, she does other things (along with her daughter) that thoroughly piss me off. She never cooks, has become a staunch carb-whore vegetarian, and they eat out constantly. So home made comfort foods don't exist in their home. And while BIL has quit smoking, SHE STILL SMOKES in his presence, and offers him drags on her cigarettes. His brother does the same thing at their mother's house (my in-laws).

His wife refuses the MMC because she believes he won't be able to drive himself anywhere. But get this: She's on disability and doesn't work. Neither does their daughter, who is 25 and still lives at home. She was concieved when SIL was on the pill and took an antibiotic. Didn't know she was Pg until she felt movement. Then, when she was visibly pregnant and the baby kicked, she would SLAP the baby, IN UTERO, hard. Granted, she's a fruitcake on a good day, but THAT was too much.

Thank you, my Peeps, for all your advice. We are working on the "wife" and "daughter".

Oh dear god! Can you get him to come live with you for a while?

 

[Sue]

this post ***** the **** out of me!!! serious??? this poor man is suffering and the SIL or the daughter will not drive him? too busy at home doing nothing, *********s. This family sounds like it has major psych issues and should walk a mile in this man's ****. No other family members? Can this man get a friend?

ADD: are there any facilities that can drive him around?

 

[Sheanie]

@Sue and
@brooklyngirl , he is one of 12 children (11 living, SIL just died of cancer late last year). My husband is #8. This family is very close, but not very aggressive or huge on helping someone who is struggling. For instance, we attempted an Intervention once. It was a complete and utter failure because nobody spoke. They just are not Buttinskys. Mind your own business, private people. Not me. I have been cooking and ferrying him foods through my husband, who puts them in BIL's car. Soups mainly. In the past week, it's all he has eaten, my soups. Wife & daughter can't cook, and they won't touch meat. I am his wife's ONLY friend in the family. She has been diagnosed with a personality disorder but refuses meds. Their daughter is an extreme introvert, no friends. Came home every weekend in college. Lived in a single room in the dorm because she's anti-social. Stares at people at family gatherings, eavesdrops on my conversations. So I say "****" alot to repel her attentions.

BIL has greatly improved in the past week. I have another pot on the stove today.....(grin) all meat-based.

 

[newanatomy]

I am ok. Family are all cray cray! I will update soon. I hope you are well, I think of you often and hope to get back up there this summer.

I hope we can get together again. Don't let the family get you down!