Newly switched (revised from band)

harrietvane

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Hi all, and thanks to @Larra for pointing me here from other parts of the internet.

I'm newly switched and enjoying the -26C temperatures here in Montreal while I recover. I had surgery on Tuesday, and after a pretty rough first 48 hours with nausea, am meeting and exceeding my hydration and even ventured outside for the first time today for some small amount of sightseeing with a friend who's come to see me while I'm in town. Definitely still feeling the pain from where my port was removed, but otherwise recovering quite nicely. I'll be off to New York on Monday, before I make the long trip home (~24 hours flying time) 10 days post surgery.

I'm keen to hear more from DSers in 'non traditional' parts of the DS world. I'm an Aussie, based in Singapore, so a lot of the brands and even foods types recommended can be harder for me to get hold of. In particular, any advice or thoughts on living a DS lifestyle in Asia would be more than welcome!

My goals with the DS are several: (1) to fix the disordered and unpredictable eating that plagued me with the band, where it was hit and miss each meal what (if anything) would go down; (2) to resolve some chronic health conditions like high blood pressure and oedema in my legs; (3) to get fitter and more active again, having more energy to live a healthier lifestyle given my very demanding job and (4) to be able to buy clothes in the country I live in, instead of having to import them. (If you ever want a good laugh, I can share some Singapore weight loss advertising where the 'before' is 54 kg - had to walk past that damn billboard every day for a year!)

Looking forward to learning a lot from everyone here, particularly on supplementation, given the lack of expertise in Singapore for bariatric matters in general, let alone DS specifically. The great news is I have a very supportive internal medicine specialist who will gladly order any tests I require.
 
Welcome! You're doing great if you can get in all your fluids less than one week out!

I had to convert the 54kg "before" to pounds. That's 119 -- I can't imagine what the "after" would be! Haha

Asian cuisine is so heavily vegetables so I hear your point about how to live the DS lifestyle. My manicurists want me to travel to Vietnam with them on their next trip home. Although excited about touring with "locals" who speak the language, I'm concerned about how I will be able to eat enough protein especially in their rural home towns. Both women are essentially vegetarian and only eat maybe a tablespoon of chicken or pork a week as a seasoning. And to date, I haven't been able to tolerate any vegetables. You should have an easier time finding protein in the large city of Singapore, though.
 
I am lucky enough to have an oven in my flat (well, lucky in that I am deliberately paying more for the luxury!) and plenty of grocery stores (local and Western) nearby. But in terms of eating out, and how I might accommodate some more local tastes at things like workshops (part of my job involves a lot of facilitation), I'm going to be doing a lot of research on what is DS compliant in an Asian, highly rice and vegetable based diet. I'll be sure to share with any others who are interested as I go.

@Clematis: The 'after' weight on the ad was like 48kg (106 lbs)...I always just remember thinking 'F*ck me, I'd need to chop of a limb to even reach the before weight!'

While I doubt I will ever end up Asian sized, it would be nice to squeeze into Singapore's version of 'fat' pants (US8-10) one day!
 
But in terms of eating out, and how I might accommodate some more local tastes at things like workshops

That can be the hardest no matter where you live. Many business or civic meetings have "cheap" food like pasta, or in your case, rice -- totally NOT for DSers. Knowing that, I eat something before/after and just tell people I'm not hungry or am having a blood test the next day and have to fast. No one really cares in a business meeting. (That maybe different in Asian culture.) Impossible is when one is invited to someone's house for dinner. It's hard not to hurt the cook's feelings. I usually call and ask if I can bring something and in that conversation casually learn their main course. If it isn't something I can eat, I have to whip out one of my standard lies about blood work or colonoscopy or "I'm having trouble regulating my blood sugar" or whatever and tell them on the phone that I won't be eating. (I never allow the host to be put in the position of thinking they need to make something special for me. Besides, years ago I told a woman I was only eating green salad for lunch and she made a GREEN PASTA salad.) However much saying "I will come for the social aspect but won't be eating" may offend them, I've found waiting until I walk in the door to say I'm not eating after they've worked to cook something I won't eat is worse.
 
Welcome and congratulations. You will figure it out. Pho is a good DS meal so that is one Asian cuisine. Lots of great liquids/fluids in the broth any you can have it loaded up with lots of meat and eggs if you so desire. Not sure if you extra meat or not in the more typical dishes and then try to eat around the veggies as much as possible early on. When you are further out you can eat more veggies but now you don't have room for that zero nutritional value food.

Good luck
 
Hi and welcome! What a wonderful opportunity for you to live in such a place! It might be a bit tough but I wouldn't think it would be impossible. Fish, tofu, eggs - all sources of protein. I'm sure you'll figure it out quickly and do quite well :)

Clematis, I am planning a trip to Vietnam in either 2017 or 2018 depending on my job situation. How wonderful for you to have local guides - I've lost touch with the people I knew over there so I'll be going it alone or with a tour. I have been looking in to the foods and I will definitely save up carbs for Bahn Mi... and I'll eat around the noodles in the Pho. There are other foods that are adaptable... but I have the feeling I'm going to go just a wee bit over my carb quota. Hopefully by the time I get there I'll be able to handle a few more carbs. Anyway... jump at that chance! :)
 
Hello. I don't have anything more to contribute re: cuisine in Asia. Just wanted to wish you good luck. Thankfully, the temperatures will be warming up when you get here on Monday. Should be up to 50F. on Tuesday!
 
Hello. I don't have anything more to contribute re: cuisine in Asia. Just wanted to wish you good luck. Thankfully, the temperatures will be warming up when you get here on Monday. Should be up to 50F. on Tuesday!

Thanks! I was debating staying on in Montreal and just going to NYC to meet my flight home, but my surgeon advised me to probably go ahead with my original plans given a big storm is going to hit here on Tuesday, and my flight home on Saturday is from New York. The train trip should be long, but hopefully scenic (snow is a novelty to me) and will give me the opportunity to be walking around regularly. I've been to NYC once before, but didn't see much. I'm hoping to at least fit in 1-2 touristy things while I'm there!
 
but my surgeon advised me to probably go ahead with my original plans given a big storm is going to hit here on Tuesday, and my flight home on Saturday is from New York. The train trip should be long, but hopefully scenic (snow is a novelty to me) and will give me the opportunity to be walking around regularly.
I heartily endorse travel by train...makes travel so much easier when you have had surgery. Dh and I traveled up from Tennessee (via South Carolina) to take the train to NYC for my dh's surgery in Dec 2010. We left Christmas Eve morning and it was a good thing as Amtrak suspended service in NYC due to a very bad snowfall late afternoon...we would have been stuck for three more days. We got home to my daddy's house in SC around midnight, Christmas Eve...in time for dh to enjoy a liquid Christmas dinner with my side of the family. Five weeks later it was my turn.
 
Definitely would be interested to hear about your joint journey! Must have made it easier to have empathy for each other. One thing that's different now than from when I was banded is that this time I'm single and living alone. My ex wasn't very supportive, could eat shit and never gain a pound, and didn't want to eat the food I was making for myself, which all caused a lot of friction. This time, I'm flying solo. My mum is in Singapore house and cat sitting for me at the moment, and will stay on for a week when I get home to support me getting in good habits (she's banded herself) and back to work, as well as just hang out.
 
Welcome Harriet!! Lovely to meet you. Our stories are so very similar I was excited to read yours. I'm newly converted myself, Crapband to DS February 5th so I'm 10 days post op tomorrow.. I live in Orange County California but traveled to Dr Esquerra in Mexicali Mexico for my surgery. I lived in NYC for 17 years and I can tell you that I personally would find NYC the hardest place on earth to be and not be able to eat!!! I look forward to hearing more of your journey!!!
 
@CaraOC: I've been reading about the rise in bone broth among hipsters, so I'm hoping to still get to experience some NYC food culture while sticking with my clear fluids! Will be excited to hear more about your journey as we move forward from band hell! :)
 
Thanks! I was debating staying on in Montreal and just going to NYC to meet my flight home, but my surgeon advised me to probably go ahead with my original plans given a big storm is going to hit here on Tuesday, and my flight home on Saturday is from New York. The train trip should be long, but hopefully scenic (snow is a novelty to me) and will give me the opportunity to be walking around regularly. I've been to NYC once before, but didn't see much. I'm hoping to at least fit in 1-2 touristy things while I'm there!
@harrietvane
I'll be in the city on Tuesday. Will be finished with my appts. early afternoon. I know you're on fluids and probably still tired, but maybe I could help you out a bit if you'd like to meet up. (I'm still recovering from hernia surgery 2.5 weeks ago so I have to take it easy, too).
 
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