Black lives, blue lives, guns, terrorists, psychos, 2nd amendment...

I was raised by uber-liberal parents as well - but peer pressure is a thing, even in kindergarten. I went to public school in Brooklyn, in a very mixed neighborhood (not far from Bed-Stuy), and my classmates were mixed as well. This was about 1958. Someone obviously told me that black people smelled bad, because I have a very clear recollection of walking with my parents down the street, and holding my breath when a black person walked by - and I also remember being very careful to not let my parents see me doing it, because I KNEW they would be angry if they knew I was doing that - I knew it was wrong too.

But I never understood (as a child, and even to some extent now) why my Orthodox Jewish family members were so utterly convinced that the world was out to get them. I have NOT experienced nearly the anti-Semitism that they assumed the rest of the world had, perhaps because our last name was not remotely recognizable as being Jewish. I know their feelings were raw - by the time I was 7 and aware of it, it had only been 15 years since the end of WWII, when they learned that most of my father's side of the family was killed in the Holocaust.
 
@k9ophile, I was a recipient of the polar opposite approach to parenting. I was raised in a household with a perspective that the more different one's culture, background, or appearance was from my own, the more interesting that person would be and the more I had to learn/gain from getting to know him/her.

One of my dad's proudest moments was when he marched for Brown v. Board of Education. He was the first to step up as faculty sponsor when a GLBT group formed. He gave me safety tips rather than trying to discourage my attendance when as a college student I decided to protest a KKK rally. Last week when we were in NYC together walking back to our hotel from dinner, my 76 year old mom sat down on the sidewalk to be at eye level when sharing a conversation with a homeless person...
What a great set of parents and they obviously raised a very fine daughter.
 
"In Mexico the “Indians” are discriminated against by those with more Spanish blood, the Greeks hate the Turks (and vice versa), tall people discriminate against the short (I know. I’m 6’3” and hate short people). The beautiful shun the ugly (ditto), rich against poor. Poor don’t care much for rich people, either. I’ve heard complaints from dark-skinned African Americans that they are discriminated against by light skinned AAs. Tribes battle each other all over the world. In the US, it’s the blue vs the red states. The South versus everyone else. The Shiites hate the Sunnis. We all know nobody likes fat people. And everyone hates the Jews."

Mark - I knew exactly what you were referencing - if any of you don't know, play this:
 
I can't even imagine that. When MLK was assassinated, mine was a city official. All flags were at half-mast. Except the one my father was in charge of. He said he wasn't going to lower the flag for "some god dammed n*****" That the flag was not at half-mast did not go unnoticed. I was in the hall at my high school when I heard someone talking about it. I was so ashamed and terrified that someone might know my dad was behind it. My dating prohibitions were no: blacks, Mexicans, Catholics, Jew, smokers, drinkers, anyone who wore bell bottomed jeans and had long hair. I graduated from high school in 1969. With the culture at that time, my dating pool was extremely shallow. As shallow as my dad. I have had to teach myself the things you were raised with. I'm so glad I started that and still continue to seek out other points of view. My world has been richer. And a lot less lonely than if I was like my dad.
I am sorry you had to experience that hon, but you are clearly a thoughtful and good person who learned to overcome those lessons you learned. I know that has to be some difficult memories for you.

My Mother and Father raised us to love others and treat people the way we wanted to be treated, regardless of how someone treated us. My Dad is 75 now and has what I call some generational small town racism. He is and never would be intentionally racist in the way he treated or reacted to others, he simply isn't a very worldly man and has had a great deal of mixing with other cultures....so he has some ignorance that comes into play and on occasion will make a remark privately to me that has tones of bigotry but I have never heard him use the N word or any other racially insensitive term for any race. He genuinely is the nicest man I have ever met and would anything to help somebody needing help. He really is my hero and I am so very lucky to be his son.

My Mom although much louder and argumentative at times never holding back her opinion (I definitely got that same trait from her) was a RN and she spent her life helping others because she loved it. When she became unable to so because of health it slowly killed her. That being said always taught us a message of inclusion and compassion for everyone. I was blessed with two great parents and I miss her so much (she passed six years agoo).
 
Maybe he's just rebelling against everything you believe in like a typical teenager. (joke) When my father threatened to kill me for opposing his stands, I moved out. We were staring to reconcile when he died at age 50. He did realize he'd been wrong about so much three months before he died. I actually pitied him. Not for dying, but for all those years in between when he was so miserable. And in time I forgave him. I'll never know if he forgave me. My forgiving him did nothing for him, but how much better my life was when I gave up all that anger and resentment.
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"In Mexico the “Indians” are discriminated against by those with more Spanish blood, the Greeks hate the Turks (and vice versa), tall people discriminate against the short (I know. I’m 6’3” and hate short people). The beautiful shun the ugly (ditto), rich against poor. Poor don’t care much for rich people, either. I’ve heard complaints from dark-skinned African Americans that they are discriminated against by light skinned AAs. Tribes battle each other all over the world. In the US, it’s the blue vs the red states. The South versus everyone else. The Shiites hate the Sunnis. We all know nobody likes fat people. And everyone hates the Jews."

Mark - I knew exactly what you were referencing - if any of you don't know, play this:

You are 6'3? I didn't notice you were that tall in your pictures that I have seen. I am 6'2 and now feel short. How dare you be taller than me.

:p
 
I am sorry you had to experience that hon, but you are clearly a thoughtful and good person who learned to overcome those lessons you learned. I know that has to be some difficult memories for you.

My Mother and Father raised us to love others and treat people the way we wanted to be treated, regardless of how someone treated us. My Dad is 75 now and has what I call some generational small town racism. He is and never would be intentionally racist in the way he treated or reacted to others, he simply isn't a very worldly man and has had a great deal of mixing with other cultures....so he has some ignorance that comes into play and on occasion will make a remark privately to me that has tones of bigotry but I have never heard him use the N word or any other racially insensitive term for any race. He genuinely is the nicest man I have ever met and would anything to help somebody needing help. He really is my hero and I am so very lucky to be his son.

My Mom although much louder and argumentative at times never holding back her opinion (I definitely got that same trait from her) was a RN and she spent her life helping others because she loved it. When she became unable to so because of health it slowly killed her. That being said always taught us a message of inclusion and compassion for everyone. I was blessed with two great parents and I miss her so much (she passed six years agoo).
Thanks for the kind words. It wasn't just my dad, it was also his siblings. Most of the cousins did not carry that legacy into their lives. My mom was loving and kind, yet dominated by my dad. Her main influence was the old saw that men are after one thing and they will call you names if you give in and other names if you don't. My sister and I have joked about how lucky we were to get married since we were taught to hate men. As for those experiences, they've made me stronger. The outcome has been good even if the lessons were hard.
 
Interesting comment as my husband has some ancestors named Silver. They were not Jewish. The name Silver is Old English: From the English word for the precious metal or the colour, ultimately derived from Old English seolfor.
I forgot that Dad's lesson in identifying Jews also included the name Gold. I'm not sure how he reconciled this with his support of Barry Goldwater. As far as I know, he never waivered from his stance on the names with Gold or Silver.
 
But...but...they could be Crypto-Jews, or the Ellis Island guys could have written down what tbey thought they heard?
Well, then the would have been Jewish back in the mid 1700's when the first Silver migrated to the Colonies. The family has been Southern Baptist since they settled in the NC area. It was one of the Silver's who was murdered by his wife and may have been the basis for the Ballad of Frankie and Johnnie.

The first George Silver (originally Silber) migrated from Germany to the Philadelphia area. The first Silver to settle in NC, came here in the very early 1800's to Western NC.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~silver/south/firstgen.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Stewart_Silver
http://www.folkstreams.net/context,159
 

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