So check my logic here... 2+ years ago I had my DS at 314 lbs, 5 feet 7, that made me a BMI of 50. 2 weeks ago I was diagnosed with moderate level arthritis. The only reason I asked for the x-rays was because when I sat on the cold and damp ground whilst playing with my dogs, I was physically unable to walk for around 10 steps when I got up. Arthritis, especially at the moderate level, is considered a very painful disease, "like a slow fire always burning in your joints." I never noticed it until after they told me. Matter-o-fact, I had started running and other high impact exercise during this time because I felt so much better than I used to. Occasionally a doctor would ask me, "How is your energy level? Is it normal?" and I would be like "How the hell would I know?" - - - - - - MAYBE: Losing weight was reliving my overall pain at a greater rate my arthritis was starting to cause pain. - - - - - Being SMO isn't listed as a "painful" condition. It is really hard to quantify pain in general, but if I can get to moderate arthritis and not even notice ... Doesn't that say something?? THEY say "during walking, the hips, knees, and ankles bear 3 to 5 times a person's total body weight. For every pound a person is overweight, 3 to 5 pounds of extra weight is added to each knee during walking. In contrast, a 10 pound weight loss essentially relieves 30 to 50 pounds of additional stress on the joints." I can't find the study, but I seen the "for every ten pounds, you drop 4 pounds of pressure on your joints" before. I lost ~180 lbs, so that would be the equivalent of 72 pounds of pressure off my joints. It is awful that I get treatments, pain killers, ribbons and organizations for my arthritis when it is nothing compared to the pain and isolation I felt as a SMO. If you are still a part of that world, you have my respect, it is a very hard life. Do you guys think I'm off base with my pain assumptions here? Do you think I was alone in quietly being in that much pain? It came on so gradually I don't think I ever really noticed, other than I just felt bad all the time. ..brandy.