SADI-S Data

[southernlady]

Posted by Elizabeth Gilchrist on Living with the Traditional Duodenal Switch

We have been waiting for long term SADI data. A 2021 journal article about the 5-year results in 1254 patients given RNY or SADI came from the Salt Lake City Bariatric Group, led by Dr Daniel Cottam. The common channel was 300 cm. About one-fifth of SADI patients at 5 years fail to maintain 50% of the weight they had lost at at 18 months. The long-term weight-loss failure rate (defined as failure to maintain 50% of weight loss at 18 months) was compared between RNY and SADI. Although the rate was significantly higher in the RYGB group [36%], the failure rate was 21.3% in SADI patients. (Surve, Obesity Surgery 2021).

There was no significant difference in weight outcomes between RNY and SADI at the end of the study. “In both groups, RNY and SADI-S, there was no statistically significant difference in weight loss between 5 and 6 years.”

SADI patients benefited from a lower complication rate than RNY. This is the link to the study.

https://www.bmiut.com/pdf/comparison-of-long-term-outcomes-of-roux-en-y-gastric-bypass-(rygb)-versus-single-anastomosis.pdf

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The same team has look at diabetes resolution with SADI in a 2020 report, which was 77% ( Surve, 2020). This is a lower rate of diabetes resolution than DS or RNY in the stats I could find.

Surve et al 2021 reported there was was no statistically significant difference between the RNY and SADI groups for nutritional data such as vitamins D, B1, and B12; insulin; fasting blood glucose; A1C; serum albumin; serum total protein; and triglycerides. This is their supplement regimen “For the RYGB patients, we recommended a multivitamin, calcium citrate (1500 mg/day), iron (if needed [65 mg/day]), vitamin B12 (1000 mcg/week), vitamin D (5000 IU per day), and probiotics (daily). For the SADI-S group, we recommended ADEK multivitamin, calcium citrate (1800–2400 mg/day), iron (65 mg/day), vitamin, and probiotics (daily).”

I am sure there is a lot to say about this study, but I can only hope that surgeons fully discuss the results with future patients.

 

[Blessed]

Wow for someone who knew about the blind trial should of done more and complaint to authorities. I am one of his so called research monkeys 7 years of hell never consented to this trial. Maybe people need to complain to Dopl. The answer is no they dont tell you they are hiding this unethical crap. Hope you find your conscience and tell what you know. Physians in utah don't say crap won't do anything!

 

[Spiky Bugger]

Wow for someone who knew about the blind trial should of done more and complaint to authorities. I am one of his so called research monkeys 7 years of hell never consented to this trial. Maybe people need to complain to Dopl. The answer is no they dont tell you they are hiding this unethical crap. Hope you find your conscience and tell what you know. Physians in utah don't say crap won't do anything!

Brilliant!

You are accusing the owner of this board of hiding information she posted two-and-a-half years ago?

Well, I hope this helps: you sound completely insane.

So I’m blocking you.

 

[JackieOnLine]

You are accusing the owner of this board of hiding information she posted two-and-a-half years ago?

is that what they are saying?

 

[Spiky Bugger]

That’s what I read. I have her on ignore, so I haven’t rechecked.

 

[Georgepds]

Wow for someone who knew about the blind trial ....

What blind trial? SFAIK patients and physicians knew what the operation was.

Not to mention surgeons.. it would be very difficult for a surgeon to not know what operation was performed.

 

[Blessed]

is that what they are saying?

I saw post back in 2014 not two years ago. If whomever new about this should have done something besides post. Reviews are for restaurant report unethical medical misconduct. Nothing you say on this post goes nowhere. You said or is accusing whatever you posted. Read the post from 2014 i see you never read the post! Maybe start from when the support group started.

 

[Blessed]

What blind trial? SFAIK patients and physicians knew what the operation was.

Not to mention surgeons.. it would be very difficult for a surgeon to not know what operation was performed.

Go read the post from 2014 and then you will know more. The surgeon s have and still doing bate and switch consent for surgery you never get. They have been doing unethical bate and switch blind non irb trial experimental bariatric procedure. Looks like I'm a research monkey never gave consent left to die a painful death. Remember stop judgement you don't know anything about me or others.

 

[Blessed]

I saw post back in 2014 not two years ago. If whomever new about this should have done something besides post. Reviews are for restaurant report unethical medical misconduct. Nothing you say on this post goes nowhere. You said or is accusing whatever you posted. Read the post from 2014 i see you never read the post! Maybe start from when the support group started.

Maybe you need to stop judgement on what i said you have no clue what 7 years of hell myself let alone others that have been used and left anatomy massacred. Just saying please people if you ever come accross something like this or are used go to dopl and officals try and be a solution this is a crime.

 

[Blessed]

I saw post back in 2014 not two years ago. If whomever new about this should have done something besides post. Reviews are for restaurant report unethical medical misconduct. Nothing you say on this post goes nowhere. You said or is accusing whatever you posted. Read the post from 2014 i see you never read the post! Maybe start from when the support group started.

The post your refering to is the findings from the blind trial of 2014. The posted findings in 2021. Go back and read the posts from 2013 2014 before you decide to judge comments anymore.

 

[southernlady]

BTW Blessed all I did was post the findings of a study that someone provided for me.

 

[Georgepds]

Go read the post from 2014 and then you will know more. The surgeon s have and still doing bate and switch consent for surgery you never get. They have been doing unethical bate and switch blind non irb trial experimental bariatric procedure. Looks like I'm a research monkey never gave consent left to die a painful death. Remember stop judgement you don't know anything about me or others.

From the abstract...

"Materials and Methods Data from 1254 patients who underwent primary RYGB or SADI-S were used for a retrospective matched cohort. Data were obtained by matching every RYGB patient to a SADI-S patient of the same sex, body mass index (BMI), and weight. Only patients out 5 years and had at least one > 5-year follow-up visit were included"


This is not a blind trial... it is a retrospective trial. That means everybody knows what happened

Also.. how do you figure "bait and switch" . This study is a "retrospective matched cohort"... That means they looked at people who made a decision and got their surgery long ago. Where do you get bait and switch out of that?

You are upset about something that happened in Utah... but it's hard to figure out what from the study reference itself . Maybe you could explain what happened to you.

 

[Blessed]

From the abstract...

"Materials and Methods Data from 1254 patients who underwent primary RYGB or SADI-S were used for a retrospective matched cohort. Data were obtained by matching every RYGB patient to a SADI-S patient of the same sex, body mass index (BMI), and weight. Only patients out 5 years and had at least one > 5-year follow-up visit were included"


This is not a blind trial... it is a retrospective trial. That means everybody knows what happened

Also.. how do you figure "bait and switch" . This study is a "retrospective matched cohort"... That means they looked at people who made a decision and got their surgery long ago. Where do you get bait and switch out of that?

You are upset about something that happened in Utah... but it's hard to figure out what from the study reference itself . Maybe you could explain what happened to you.
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[Blessed]

I only said those who have information please stop posting go talk and tell DOPL in utah. This has and continues to be criminal unethical physicians. They need to be charged and prosecuted. Spunky bugger wants to pick a fight this is not normal behavior. Consent for surgery rights and lives have been ruined. Never mentioned you. Go for spunky bugger!

 

[Blessed]

From the abstract...

"Materials and Methods Data from 1254 patients who underwent primary RYGB or SADI-S were used for a retrospective matched cohort. Data were obtained by matching every RYGB patient to a SADI-S patient of the same sex, body mass index (BMI), and weight. Only patients out 5 years and had at least one > 5-year follow-up visit were included"


This is not a blind trial... it is a retrospective trial. That means everybody knows what happened

Also.. how do you figure "bait and switch" . This study is a "retrospective matched cohort"... That means they looked at people who made a decision and got their surgery long ago. Where do you get bait and switch out of that?

You are upset about something that happened in Utah... but it's hard to figure out what from the study reference itself . Maybe you could explain what happened to you.

Go read the post from 2014 when the support group started. You might learn something rather than uninformed.!