I posted a new link for more fat bombs and @robs477 had this question...but in order for it not to be lost, I'm bringing it and my answer over here for all to discuss. Rob, I don't count...I do keep a running total of protein and carbs in my head (general NOT an exact number). I just know when I am low on fat if I have a hard time pooping the next day...signal for me to up my fat intake. OR if it's very loose, to back off a bit. Best rules about fat... Don't avoid it and once healed and on ALL your vitamins (esp calcium) If you have diarrhea, cut back on fat. If you are constipated or have dry skin/hair, ADD FAT! Reason for not avoiding fat is that the human body needs it for the brain, skin, ease of pooping, etc. The LOWEST number I saw for minimum fat grams for a NORMAL adult is 30 grams a day. Well, the one paper that has been done on percentage of malabsorption just happened to be on fat. And that mentioned that we (DS'ers) only absorb 20% of the fat we ingest. That is why fat is a free food for most of us. See this thread: http://bariatricfacts.org/threads/ds-math.735/ Worse thing the food industry EVER did was discover "LOW fat" cause to make stuff taste good and lower the fat, they had to increase the sugar content. Look at labels in the store...and go down the candy aisle reading labels. Example, Twizzlers has "LOW FAT" on the label. Well, DUH, of course it's low fat, actually I would be surprised if it had any fat as it's nothing really but sugar and flavorings. But we KNOW better than to make a meal off Twizzlers JUST because of the low fat label. The low fat mantra is why skim and 1% milk still exists (blue water, I call it). It's why butter and eggs were vilified. And while it's not PROVEN that the food pyramid and the low fat mantra caused the current obesity epidemic, it sure did not help matters. The food pyramid that most of us grew up with was introduced in 1974. YES, there was obesity all along but we didn't start reaching epidemic proportions til the 70's. Much of it can also be laid at technology's doorstep. But back to counting...if it makes you feel better to count everything, do so...but many of us don't. I do about 2 times a year to see where I am actually landing but I go by my lab numbers for protein, and watch the scale for carbs...Fat, I watch my toilet habits. Actual counting makes me nuts...too much of a diet mentality and I got the DS to get OFF the diet roller coaster.